My advice - save your money and buy the Yamaha HS80Ms. I bought mine last year after comparing virtually everything in the $300-1200 price range, including the KRKs, Alesis, Events, Mackies, JBLs, Behringers, M-Audios, Nadys, Adams, Dynaudios and even some of the cheaper Genelecs. I was originally planning on buying the JBL LSR4328s, but after hearing them, I wasn't that impressed. The HS80Ms and Mackies (HR824mkII) were the most detailed monitors that I listened to. But, the Mackies were about $600 more than the Yamahas (almost twice the price) , so that sealed the deal for me.

In my opinion, and no offense to people who own the other speakers on your list, but the Alesis and (esp) KRKs sounded like crap in comparison - they had no detail and were very mushy sounding. I wouldn't waste your time or money on them. Actually, in that price range, I would consider the Behringer Truth 2031As or M-Audio BX5As over the KRK or Alesis monitors. The Event TR8s and TR8XLs also sounded pretty good for the money, but unfortunately I don't think that I listened to the TR6s since I was primarily interested in 8-in 2-way speakers.

Now that I've had my Yamahas for about six months, I can say that they were very easy to get acclimated to and sound great at pretty much all output levels. I especially like how clear and present everything sounds at relatively low levels, which is important to me because I sometimes mix at night when my 10-month old son is asleep. When he is awake or when my wife takes him out of the house, I go back and crank up my mixes to test them at higher volumes and I'm usually very surprised at how little tweaking I need to do (mostly balancing the low frequencies, of course).

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its probably best you spend your money on some preowned monitors. or look at the specs with a pinch of salt and make a choice out of all you are considering. most of the specs on these monitors are far from accurate. unless its got a thx certificate the manufacturers can bullshit anything. and its not like the end user will have the equipment to check if the specs are correct. whatever you get, your ears will learn them and once that happens they will be perfect for you until you realise you need something better to mix on.

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it must be a reason why all pro studios have one pair of yamaha HS as closefields and dynaudio as big speakers in the back. im going to see how the smaller HS sounds like in some time when i saved some money.

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Originally posted by palm it must be a reason why all pro studios have one pair of yamaha HS as closefields and dynaudio as big speakers in the back. im going to see how the smaller HS sounds like in some time when i saved some money.

I thought most studios used Yamaha NS's? Could be mistaken, but I thought that was the standard Yamaha I always see for nearfield monitors.

To the poster: I would recommend the Yamaha's, but I would highly recommend not getting anything less than 6" in woofers - I'd recommend 8" if you can for low frequency accuracy. Like cyrophonik said, HS80m's would be my best bet. Maybe grab a set used for your budget. I've owned my KRK's for about a year and they're good... sturdy, reliable, etc. Not bad quality of speaker, but I just tend to hear something completely different when I burn it and throw it on several other systems. It may be that I'm not acclimated yet/haven't done enough tracks to get it down... friends of mine prefer the KRK's (not the RP's though); but that said, I'm going to end up getting a second set of nearfield monitors (probably the Yamaha's) to reference along with the KRK's.

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Originally posted by Ray_Chappell I thought most studios used Yamaha NS's?

maybe 10 years ago. :P
if anyone is still using them now, they aren't using them as their MAIN monitors.

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Originally posted by Ray_Chappell I'd recommend 8" if you can for low frequency accuracy.

While you will get more low end, you will also get the obligatory scoop in the mids from ANY cheap (anything less than mackies) 8" monitor. Transient response is also usually sacrificed. It's a double edged sword, this is why many much more expensive monitors (BM5A, A7s) are not 8".

Beyond 6", you start to need a 3-way design, or use really expensive 8" woofers. Obviously the 8" Genelecs and Dynaudios have the price tag to work with a 2-way design.

In my oppinion, if you are getting cheap monitors, like all those listed there, you are better off getting 6" monitors and a sub. This way you don't sacrifice the accuracy of the monitors themselves to get extra bass.

I vote Event TR6, but if I had to chose any others, I would go HS80M.
KRK RP8s are not good at all in my oppinion. I wouldn't even consider them. If you A/B them with some high end monitors, you will notice straight away how hyped they are.

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The stereo imaging is fantastic and the ribbon tweeters just sound amazingly detailed. Bass is very tight, but not that low. Using a sub is a plus, but not a necessity.

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Oops, I just saw that your budget is 300€. I'd go for the Event TR6 then. But don't do the mistake I made to buy cheap monitors if you're really serious about producing. It's worth it to spend atleast 800€ on monitors in my opinion.

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Originally posted by echosystm maybe 10 years ago. :P if anyone is still using them now, they aren't using them as their MAIN monitors. While you will get more low end, you will also get the obligatory scoop in the mids from ANY cheap (anything less than mackies) 8" monitor. Transient response is also usually sacrificed. It's a double edged sword, this is why many much more expensive monitors (BM5A, A7s) are not 8". Beyond 6", you start to need a 3-way design, or use really expensive 8" woofers. Obviously the 8" Genelecs and Dynaudios have the price tag to work with a 2-way design. In my oppinion, if you are getting cheap monitors, like all those listed there, you are better off getting 6" monitors and a sub. This way you don't sacrifice the accuracy of the monitors themselves to get extra bass. I vote Event TR6, but if I had to chose any others, I would go HS80M. KRK RP8s are not good at all in my oppinion. I wouldn't even consider them. If you A/B them with some high end monitors, you will notice straight away how hyped they are.

I stand corrected. For some reason I thought this was still a common staple in studios... Good info on the 8" monitors by the way. Thanks.

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Originally posted by Ray_Chappell I stand corrected. For some reason I thought this was still a common staple in studios... Good info on the 8" monitors by the way. Thanks.

One reason why they're so popular is that Yamaha were giving them away to recording studios as a marketing campaign.

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Originally posted by Ray_Chappell For some reason I thought this was still a common staple in studios...

Don't get me wrong, a lot of studios still have them, but it is not because they are good speakers. Infact, they're quite horrible by today's standards (otherwise everyone would be buying them).

NS-10s were only ever popular because everyone had them. Think of them as the Technics 1200 of speakers. If people still have them, it is to use them for checking translation, not actual monitoring.

You will notice more and more that most big studios have custom made 3 ways.

Eg. Here is the Rank1 studio...


You can see there two custom made 3-way monitors and two subs.

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox I've never had a problem with FLs tech support till this day. (I've actually never used it till this day)

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Thanks a lot for your answers guys, I will have to think what's the best option and then I'll tell you which one did I buy.

one little question about pads. can I use smth like these
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Originally posted by Damnuok2 Thanks a lot for your answers guys, I will have to think what's the best option and then I'll tell you which one did I buy. one little question about pads. can I use smth like these ?

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