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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil
Dunno An ability I'm yet to master

Namely, the ability of pointing out absurd fallacies in absurd discussions (this thread is made of wtf and nerdiness, if you're drunk/sleepy please skip to the core version at the end of this post).

Tonight my girlfriend and I were walking on the mall, enjoying ourselves, when my phone rang. It was my brother, and he asked me how to prepare konnyaku jelly. Puzzled, I told him how my girlfriend prepared it: with caustic soda.

That's when a friend of his grabbed the phone and started telling me he still had all his fingers, that he has prepared this dish before in his life, and he couldn't possibly have used caustic soda. I was flabbergasted. I then explained myself, telling him that this is how my girlfriend prepared the damn dish. He then proceeded to blabble about how that was impossible, and even passed the phone to a friend of his who had no idea of what was going on (but had had the dish before).

Now, as absurd as it might be, he just made a hasty generalisation (i.e. "I cook this way, a friend of mine cooks this way, therefore everybody else must do the way we do"). But I was so surprised by his incredulity that I couldn't point that out (which cost me 15 minutes of inarticulate claims of how he was an authority in cooking konnyaku jelly).

I guess I need to work on my argumentation skills...

CORe version: I never knew someone actually cared that much about jelly, bitches don't know 'bout caustic soda, and I couldn't tell 'em 'bout it either.


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Silky Johnson
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Ah yes...I remember taking a course that delved into this my first year of college. I may still have the text book somewhere.

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BTG
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his fingers?

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AlphaStarred
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Re: An ability I'm yet to master

LOL

I've had similar instances with someone and realized it's easier to be brief and to the point, otherwise I always ended up feeling I wasted my breath in trying to prove a point - that he was in the wrong. By then it seems I offended him.

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...which cost me 15 minutes of inarticulate claims of how he was an authority in cooking konnyaku jelly).


Did he argue about that one?

I've read somewhere that the idea of arguing with a fool is mutual. Here's another I just found: "Never argue with a fool. Someone watching may not be able to tell the difference."

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Lilith
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caustic soda?

Same sort of caustic soda you clean drains with?

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i liek konnyaku jelly candy


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After reading those examples, I've concluded that a hasty generalisation is arguably the most bizarre thing in life.

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Re: An ability I'm yet to master

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Originally posted by Lira
Namely, the ability of pointing out absurd fallacies in absurd discussions (this thread is made of wtf and nerdiness, if you're drunk/sleepy please skip to the core version at the end of this post).

Tonight my girlfriend and I were walking on the mall, enjoying ourselves, when my phone rang. It was my brother, and he asked me how to prepare konnyaku jelly. Puzzled, I told him how my girlfriend prepared it: with caustic soda.

That's when a friend of his grabbed the phone and started telling me he still had all his fingers, that he has prepared this dish before in his life, and he couldn't possibly have used caustic soda. I was flabbergasted. I then explained myself, telling him that this is how my girlfriend prepared the damn dish. He then proceeded to blabble about how that was impossible, and even passed the phone to a friend of his who had no idea of what was going on (but had had the dish before).

Now, as absurd as it might be, he just made a hasty generalisation (i.e. "I cook this way, a friend of mine cooks this way, therefore everybody else must do the way we do"). But I was so surprised by his incredulity that I couldn't point that out (which cost me 15 minutes of inarticulate claims of how he was an authority in cooking konnyaku jelly).

I guess I need to work on my argumentation skills...

CORe version: I never knew someone actually cared that much about jelly, bitches don't know 'bout caustic soda, and I couldn't tell 'em 'bout it either.


Do what I do in the 911 threads. Call them a cvnt and then rape their children.


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malek
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i just tell people they're crazy and insane when they're absolutely wrong, I also tell them I'm willing to put money like a 100$ to back my claim... usually people back off, or check google


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I can't tell - are you making food or explosives?












I fuckin' refuse to google it.

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Sushipunk
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Caustic soda? Not baking soda? (or bi-carb of soda/sodium bicarbonate, depending on what you call it?)


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Lilith
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At any rate, if they're using caustic soda they'll be dead by now and problem solved!

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