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Originally posted by Guest Band/DJ hybrids like Hot Chip, Junior Boys, and whoever these guys are (which I never heard of until someone else made a thread about them). The lines between being a dj and being a band are really being blurred It'll be a hipster paradise

Trentemoller live, Apparat live, etc.

I'm convinced the future is in hardware for top producers because it has really something more while bedroom producers will stick to software.

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Originally posted by Guest It'll be a hipster paradise

God help us...

I'll probably get a lot of flak for saying this, but I don't care much for most of these "hybrid" sort of live acts that people to be so big on lately, though I enjoy Trentemoller. I especially don't understand the seemingly universal sentiment that live playing and "real instruments" somehow automatically make for a better musical experience.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I'll probably get a lot of flak for saying this, but I don't care much for most of these "hybrid" sort of live acts that people to be so big on lately, though I enjoy Trentemoller. I especially don't understand the seemingly universal sentiment that live playing and "real instruments" somehow automatically make for a better musical experience.

Ya I'm not saying its better or worse. But its alot easier to get mainstreamers to see a band than it is a dj.

The thing that made me post this was when I saw that Junior Boys did a dj mix on Get Physical. I'm like wtf

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I especially don't understand the seemingly universal sentiment that live playing and "real instruments" somehow automatically make for a better musical experience.

I guess that only applies when you are actually there to see someone live, then it's worth the experience, better or worse it's live.

I don't know if this is the future of electronic music because there always were live project appearances from Underworld, Orbital, F.S.O.L, Fluke (i guess?),The Prodigy, The Chemical Brothers. Electronic projects like Trentemoller, Apparat and stuff just continue this theme. I also personally love the neo-electronic-shoegaze stuff like M83, Maps and Ulrich Schnauss which actually make shoegaze-rock by means of modern electronic apparatus (maybe i'll try to make such music in the near future heh).


I personally love the interactive rock-electronic thing, or the electronic thing made in more organic, live, hardware ways. Look at this other thread with the Field-!!! collaboration. You can hear how the loops of The Field gain in dynamism and power when accompanied by the live rock quitars and drums of !!! and how the whole music somehow takes life of its own. Also take a look in the followed clip demonstrating the post-rock/electronica project El Ten Eleven playing one of their tracks.


El Ten Eleven - "My Only Swerving"





Notice that all quitars/bass come from the guy with the quitar who plays a line then loops it with a loop-pedal and so-on (whereas all drums and synths come from the drummer who at one moment plays the kicks, snares and the synth at the same time!). Quite multi-tasking and amazig (by the way,all of their first album was amazing. This was one was one of their weakest songs IMO).


Why don't EDM producers play in this way? Like play a synth-line then loop it live and so-on, perhaps create a track in one take (with the help of a studio engineer)! I guess that most of them are not musically very cable? Instead, they are all very busy sitting in front of their software sequencers, cutting and pasting their 8-note riffs and increasing the cut-off filter in the build-up, damn them!

Already made a post about these in the other thread, here are some of their tracks. Kinda fits the hybrid jazzband/"DJ"-description. Couldn't find anything of them live, but I've seen them twice and they rock it.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfV9...feature=related

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i've got to echo petran here


this is not the future, it is a return the past.

this is the origins of electronic dance music. if you think there is anything new out there you're either mistaken or very lucky to have heard something special





the future is forsaken unfortunately.

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Originally posted by nefardec i've got to echo petran here this is not the future, it is a return the past. this is the origins of electronic dance music. if you think there is anything new out there you're either mistaken or very lucky to have heard something special the future is forsaken unfortunately.

It will evolve into something a little more complex then what people used in the past and what people are using now, obviously.

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Originally posted by Guest Band/DJ hybrids like Hot Chip, Junior Boys, and whoever these guys are (which I never heard of until someone else made a thread about them). The lines between being a dj and being a band are really being blurred It'll be a hipster paradise

How is that the future when it's been happening since the 80's (Newcleus, Egyptian Lover, World Class Wrecking Cru, etc.)?



And almost all of those "bands/live acts" are great as "bands/live acts" - but have you ever heard a Hot Chip DJ set?

Wretched.

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I've always enjoyed live acts, but personally, they don't represent the core spirit of anonymity in dance music that always appealed to me. They're a thousand times more entitled to recognition than superstar DJs, but I like hours of faceless music over orchestrated shows.