Hey guys,

I'm having trouble imitating a producer who has spent about 200000000 hours more time producing than I have and probably will always be better than me but anyways that's besides the point.

I'm trying to work out what sander van doorn's new pads are comprised of. He's used it in his remix of apologise and the girl you lost.

Here's a sample:

http://trancesa.com/cetra/pads.mp3

I figure it's similar to a supersaw/pad/thing, plenty of input waveforms detuned etc... but just can't match the timbre of this one at all

Anyways, any help would be appreciated!

i'd suggest not trying to imitate any other artist...

but if you must imitate, i think you'd be best off trying to figure that sh out yourself, you'll learn a ton of other stuff that will be helpful to you in other projects along the way

david

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Originally posted by davidbuhau i'd suggest not trying to imitate any other artist... but if you must imitate, i think you'd be best off trying to figure that sh out yourself, you'll learn a ton of other stuff that will be helpful to you in other projects along the way david

That's a silly obstacle to erect, especially for someone who's newer. Reinventing the wheel isn't originality, and sometimes you need the damn wheel. Imitating a simple pad sound does not make one's total song unoriginal. When I started out, a supersaw tutorial helped me move on, progress, and branch out far faster than if I'd have twisted knobs ad-nauseum, obsessed with how to reach a certain arbitrary goal...
Even if I'd would not have used it.

As for the pad, if you're talking about the one that fades in, it doesn't sound complex. I'm getting the impression it's not very detuned, doesn't have much modulation applied to it.. Or maybe there's a ring mod? Dunno. But it definitely needs layered octaves, and a manually automated volume.

So wait... you want one of these?

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O, i know exactly how to make THAT sound

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Yeah, I am sorta learning by example here. There aren't really any tutorials for new new sounds, just a few general ones. I thought it might be something obvious like a different wave form from a sawtooth or something like that. It's very crunchy and there are lots of high ends.

It's like in biology you dissect animals to find out how they tick. But you can't go and make that animal. Or can you

Sounds like a pile of saws to me freq sweeping with a hella nice big reverb on it. Shouldnt be too hard to make ..

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To me it doesn't sound like pads. I would say it's rather an increasing "send" to an effect bus on that chord sound, with a big filtered reverb on it.

Another way of doing it is put a reverb on the chord channel, automate the mix parameter, bounce it and reuse it as audio, that also gives the advantage of having a clean dropout when the kick-in comes (as in the sample). Angello uses that technique nicely here:

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