http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25605640/


Unbelievable. I don't even know what to say.

And Obama signed it. He just lost my vote.

yeah, that's pretty poor.

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The bill would give the government a week to conduct a wiretap in an emergency before it must apply for a court order. The original law said three days.

does this mean they can carry out wiretapping for 6 days without a court order, and then pack up and go home without telling anyone and without applying for that court order?

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So, Obama is showing more and more of his real colours ;-) Doesnt surprise me at all. I talked about this multiple times ... some things never change.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN yeah, that's pretty poor. does this mean they can carry out wiretapping for 6 days without a court order, and then pack up and go home without telling anyone and without applying for that court order?

Seems like we're lost in a torrent of mp3s.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium So, Obama is showing more and more of his real colours ;-) Doesnt surprise me at all. I talked about this multiple times ... some things never change.

Politicians being politician? yeah.

Did anyone read the link?


or... care?


Do we need a summary these days? Oi vey, god help us all..

If no one else cares, then I won't, and we'll move along the stream. Let's start asking why.

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby Did anyone read the link?

of course. that's where my quote came from.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN of course. that's where my quote came from.

ty

even more absurd, Hillary was one of the 28 that voted against cloture. what's she up to you think??????? hmmmmm.

never underestimate the Clintons' propensity for calculation

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25605640/ Unbelievable. I don't even know what to say. And Obama signed it. He just lost my vote.

sadly I am on that same boat, had so much hope for him...

but alas.....he is of the same .....

Personally I think winning the election is more important than sticking to his guns.

If you'd vote McCain instead now just over this, you're pretty naive.

At this point I just want to see him win the election, if he's a terrible president, what can you do, but I'd rather take that chance with Obama than with McCain.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby Did anyone read the link? or... care? Do we need a summary these days? Oi vey, god help us all.. If no one else cares, then I won't, and we'll move along the stream. Let's start asking why.

Of course I read the link. I just got a little confused - it said that Obama at first didnt sign the bill, then he did at the end. First it was the Israeli lobby group that he made a deal with. Now its a deal with a devil. Whats next?

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