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josh4
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Palin to start Armageddon

I couldn't take that retarded catch-all thread anymore after seeing several of the same articles quoted more than once. Sorry Lira.

quote:
The pastor who clashed with Palin
"Forget all this chatter about whether or not she knows what the Bush doctrine is. That's trivial. The real disturbing thing about Sarah is her mind-set. It's her underlying belief system that will influence how she responds in an international crisis, if she's ever in that position, and has the full might of the U.S. military in her hands. She gave some indication of that thinking in her ABC interview, when she suggested how willing she would be to go to war with Russia.

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"But," Bess adds, "this person's election would be a disaster for the country and the world."
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2...bess/index.html


McCain sold his soul to the devil. He realized he wasn't going to win and threw everything into Palin to appease the radical right base. I'm not freaking out because I fear loosing, I think Obama is going to win. The fact she is so close is whats troubling.

These articles keep coming out. Her governing style is exactly like Bush. Anyone that has ever crossed her is immediately branded an enemy and she favors loyalty over competence. She's crazy! War with Russia? She is going to get into the White House and kill McCain so she can do God's will. She's going to start Armageddon.

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Dj Smitty20
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I don't see how moderate conservatives in the US can really defend McCain's choice here. This extremist nutjob stuff coming out about her isn't slowing down. I wonder if Joe Biden might have to label her as having very "un American, extreme" views on the world in the debates?

Either way, he has to bring up her whacky positions on some things and drive home the point that extremism is not what America or the world needs right now.

She's quite a tyrant!


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You can't compromise with an absolutist. That's what's scary about fundamentalist Christians who know without a doubt they themselves are right and everyone is Satan's followers.


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jerZ07002
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a little off topic:

i was intrigued to hear the woman speak, they made her out to be the female version of obama, however, i found her to be quite unremarkable. she uses far too much country slang for my taste.

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atbell
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quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
a little off topic:

i was intrigued to hear the woman speak, they made her out to be the female version of obama, however, i found her to be quite unremarkable. she uses far too much country slang for my taste.


I'm betting your not the type of person they want her to appeal to. First off you can type, second you know what the internet is.

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The17sss
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Re: Palin to start Armageddon

quote:
Originally posted by josh4
She's crazy! War with Russia? She is going to get into the White House and kill McCain so she can do God's will. She's going to start Armageddon.


WTF? Relax man you're going overboard on this. Show me where she specifically said she wants to go to war with Russia... and in the entire context of the conversation. Because if you really read it, and not the cherry picked version that left wing media outlets like to play, you'll see she's not a warmongering psychopath like you are being led to believe. This is the REAL conversation, NOT edited by ABC that you saw on tv:



GIBSON: Let’s start, because we are near Russia, let’s start with Russia and Georgia.

The administration has said we’ve got to maintain the territorial integrity of Georgia. Do you believe the United States should try to restore Georgian sovereignty over South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

PALIN: First off, we’re going to continue good relations with Saakashvili there. I was able to speak with him the other day and giving him my commitment, as John McCain’s running mate, that we will be committed to Georgia. And we’ve got to keep an eye on Russia. For Russia to have exerted such pressure in terms of invading a smaller democratic country, unprovoked, is unacceptable and we have to keep…

GIBSON: You believe unprovoked.

PALIN: I do believe unprovoked and we have got to keep our eyes on Russia, under the leadership there. I think it was unfortunate. That manifestation that we saw with that invasion of Georgia shows us some steps backwards that Russia has recently taken away from the race toward a more democratic nation with democratic ideals. That’s why we have to keep an eye on Russia.

And, Charlie, you’re in Alaska. We have that very narrow maritime border between the United States, and the 49th state, Alaska, and Russia. They are our next door neighbors.We need to have a good relationship with them. They’re very, very important to us and they are our next door neighbor.

GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

PALIN: They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.

GIBSON: What insight does that give you into what they’re doing in Georgia?

PALIN: Well, I’m giving you that perspective of how small our world is and how important it is that we work with our allies to keep good relation with all of these countries, especially Russia. We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it’s in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.

Sarah Palin on Russia:

We cannot repeat the Cold War. We are thankful that, under Reagan, we won the Cold War, without a shot fired, also. We’ve learned lessons from that in our relationship with Russia, previously the Soviet Union.

We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it’s in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.

GIBSON: Would you favor putting Georgia and Ukraine in NATO?

PALIN: Ukraine, definitely, yes. Yes, and Georgia.

GIBSON: Because Putin has said he would not tolerate NATO incursion into the Caucasus.

PALIN: Well, you know, the Rose Revolution, the Orange Revolution, those actions have showed us that those democratic nations, I believe, deserve to be in NATO.

Putin thinks otherwise. Obviously, he thinks otherwise, but…

GIBSON: And under the NATO treaty, wouldn’t we then have to go to war if Russia went into Georgia?

PALIN: Perhaps so. I mean, that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is if another country is attacked, you’re going to be expected to be called upon and help.

But NATO, I think, should include Ukraine, definitely, at this point and I think that we need to — especially with new leadership coming in on January 20, being sworn on, on either ticket, we have got to make sure that we strengthen our allies, our ties with each one of those NATO members.

We have got to make sure that that is the group that can be counted upon to defend one another in a very dangerous world today.

GIBSON: And you think it would be worth it to the United States, Georgia is worth it to the United States to go to war if Russia were to invade.

PALIN: What I think is that smaller democratic countries that are invaded by a larger power is something for us to be vigilant against. We have got to be cognizant of what the consequences are if a larger power is able to take over smaller democratic countries.

And we have got to be vigilant. We have got to show the support, in this case, for Georgia. The support that we can show is economic sanctions perhaps against Russia, if this is what it leads to.

It doesn’t have to lead to war and it doesn’t have to lead, as I said, to a Cold War, but economic sanctions, diplomatic pressure, again, counting on our allies to help us do that in this mission of keeping our eye on Russia and Putin and some of his desire to control and to control much more than smaller democratic countries.

His mission, if it is to control energy supplies, also, coming from and through Russia, that’s a dangerous position for our world to be in, if we were to allow that to happen.

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Lebezniatnikov
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Honestly, the unedited version looks even worse. She is so far out of her depth on foreign policy.


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Krypton
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quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Honestly, the unedited version looks even worse. She is so far out of her depth on foreign policy.


You probably know 100x more about foreign policy than Sarah Palin...


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Q5echo
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Re: Palin to start Armageddon

quote:
Originally posted by josh4
I couldn't take that retarded catch-all thread anymore


+1

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Q5echo
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quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Honestly, the unedited version looks even worse.


thats your opinion but you can't honestly say based on the interview she wants to go to war with Russia. thats the point.

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Lebezniatnikov
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quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
You probably know 100x more about foreign policy than Sarah Palin...


There's actually a facebook group "I know more about foreign policy than Sarah Palin" - pretty sure everyone who posts in PDD could join.


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