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Fenix6448
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Working the EQ's

So I'm growing in my mixing skills, and I want to work on my EQing now.

When I first started, for the most part I left the mids and highs alone, and only switched the lows when appropriate.

I know this is inappropriate and sounds sloppy to the trained ear.

The question is - how do you guys EQ? I know every mix should be different and adjusted as needed, but is there a pattern you guys seem to follow? Playing with the highs last, slowing changing your levels or just slamming them, not touching certain EQs, etc?

Any explanations/hints would help!

Cheers!

Edit: Also, I've noticed that now I tend to bring the volume of a channel all the way up before adjusting EQ's because they are relatively low and unnoticeable to my ear when making the adjustments. Should the EQing be done before full volume is reached?

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woscar
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Guatemala, Guatemala

Whatever sounds good, I guess.

Anyway, I find that I play with the mids and highs first adjusting as I see fit, kinda like slowly bringing in the melody in the coming track. Then I begin to switch the lows, sometimes it's a slam and sometimes I gradually lower the bass on the track that's going out while bringing it in in the track I'm introducing at about the same ratio. Whatever works best. Also, I am by no means an expert...I'm still learning and this is what I've found to work for me


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Trance Nutter
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Adelaide, Australia

just experiment and find your own method.

Theres no rules or 'proper' way to djing, just do your own thing and find your own style.


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n3lly
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Dublin

quote:
Originally posted by Trance Nutter
just experiment and find your own method.

Theres no rules or 'proper' way to djing, just do your own thing and find your own style.


While I love the way this forum is notorious for using the above line I also think sometimes people just want to hear which way you do something. Not because they are trying to find an easy way out of doing something but just to have something to compare.

I personally have had no mates to bounce ideas off as i'm the only one who dj's out of my friends. Therefore everything i've ever done has been self taught. I would love to have someone to get tips and tricks from but that's why I visit this site I suppose.

I'm still getting used to my Xone 92 but the way i'm doing things at the moment is:

A song is playing out.
I cut all the bass and lower the mids of the incoming track.
If the highs need a slight bit of adjusting as they're clashing I drop them just a little bit.
I then usually put the fader right up as with the EQ's turned down slightly the channel shouldn't add too much extra volume.
You should be able to hear the highs a little at this point.

Next step is messing around with lows and mids. Depending on the position of the track I might kill the mids completely on the song that is playing out. Wait a little while and then introduce the mids of the new song.

At the same time i might kill the lows on the song that is playing out so there's no bass at all. Everything goes quite and then you just drop the new bass line in.
Other times i introduce the cued lows in slowly while reducing the lows from the song that is playing out.



As you can see, The reason why Trance Nutter said "do what sounds good' is that there are literally 1,000s of ways to go about this.

Sometimes i'll use the crossfader (rarely) and chop one song in then snap right back out of it.

Anyway, I'm in the mood to spin a few tunes now lol..

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Zild
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: San Antonio, US : TXTA #156

I use mainly the channel faders with just a little bit of EQ to make sure my levels don't spike or drop out. I find most beginner to intermediate DJs abuse the EQs way too much. If you program your set properly you hardly have to touch them. When you do use them make small cuts to open up space for another song to fill without increasing the overall volume level of your mix.


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Dj Gracjan
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: 519

i usually just hit the mids.

everything stated below is in terms of a clock. eg. 10 O'clock


- I always have my knobs @ 12
- I put the mid to about 10on the incoming tune then i either
- Slam the volume of the incoming song to about 7-8 OR gradually increase the volume as i see fit for the particular situation.
- I slowly start putting the mid to 12 while slowly taking the other mid down to about 10
- then i eventually slam the volume full on the incoming while lowering the other song slightly to avoid clashing and sounds better (imo)
- then i either change the low's or mix them in depenind on the sound again. when I mix them I tend to hit the incoming one to about 7 while lowering the main one to about 10 and then eventually either switch them opposite or just hit the one and kill the other


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Neo95gt
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: NJ

I'm a pretty big nooob but have taught myself everything as I don't have any friends that dj either, but here's how I do it.

-As song is playing out I start the new song in beat and phrase with volume all the way down

-I then raise the volume with the eq's slightly down, sometimes I raise it slowly, sometimes all at once, sometimes little by little on the beat. Either way it's not huge of difference since the eq's are down a little

-Then, depending on what I think will sound good I start bringing in and out the lows, mids and highs. I don't just kill the eqs on the song going out, they're pretty small adjustments. I do this all on beat and try to do big adjustments at the beginning of a new phrase. If a song has strong lows or mids you may want to be sensitive around that because if you take it out too fast it may sound fucked up. Or if the mids on the song going out are really grooving with the incoming track, maybe some light vocals, you might want to keep them up longer than usual, etc. Either way, it ends up with the oncoming song being at full volume with full eq with the other outgoing song having lowered eqs and volume.

-When the incoming song, now basically the primary song playing, I kill the other song (that you can still hear slightly, depending on situation) at the start of a new phrase. Sometimes quickly, sometimes slowly.

Also, always gotta check your levels to make sure the volume isn't dropping out or spiking.....lowered volume levels can really kill the mix. Gotta watch out for those quiet songs.

Anyways, I have no idea if what I'm doing is right or what, but would like to see what other people do

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Storyteller
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Registered: Feb 2005
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I cut and boost as I see fit. A lot of times all my eq's are on -inf when I start mixing in. Or the lows to -inf and higs + mids at 9/10 o'clock ish.


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sleepydragon
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i never touch the mids and dont turn the highs that far down cant see the point in using mid seems like to much like messing around when you dont even need to use them.


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i reckon this is worth a sticky


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CiTrus
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Singapore

do you guys ever mixed and realized everytime you bring in a new track in the volume will get much louder or so in the waveform once its recorded.

that means crappy EQing? normally what do you guys do to the outgoing track when u bring the incoming track in to make the volume as balanced as possible, other than perfect EQing?

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