have any of you taken audio engineering to improve the quality and style of your tracks?

i am taking this at my college in Febuary which is a 6 month intensive course at 8K

i am taking a loan for this course just to add passion of making professional beats

Theres a few courses that focus purely on the production side of things. Honolulu CC offers a degree in Music production, Uni. of MD offers a course that is "how to make EDM" literally. The final is the instructor hearing the track youve produced and his oppinion of it.

Classes are out there just gotta have the desire to go to a educational setting for things instead of on the fly.

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I'm so glad I didn't take any of these courses. I'd rather invest 8k in proper monitoring (speakers) and other necessities for music production.

You can learn most of the things they teach you by yourself. Most musicians/friends I know that produce, taught the art of music production themselves. A lot of them have released on renown labels worldwide and some of them are even in the DJ MAG top 100. You don't have to take a class to become good/popular, that's my point.

If you're a starting producer then this course might come in handy for a quick start, but if you are an intermediate one the usefulness of these courses can be questioned.

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Taking this class can give you skill sets that can be used outside of the world of edm, so do it. Chances are at 45 you will RAVE less.

An education will always give you a better shot at life than those without it.

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good posts guys very true in what you have said.

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Originally posted by elFreak Taking this class can give you skill sets that can be used outside of the world of edm, so do it. Chances are at 45 you will RAVE less. An education will always give you a better shot at life than those without it.

I disagree. References count, your productions count (which would be a reference as well). Nobody cares about your education on the musical aspect of your music production career.

An engineering diploma says you meet some random unclear requirements that can't be measured objectively in any way. In other words, virtually nobody cares.

The only worthy audio courses I've seen thus far take 4 years, full-time, including internships and the likes. Which actually cost less than 8k (!). It earns you a nice bachelor's degree as well.

An education will give you a better shot at life, unless it's an art related education. Art is way too subjective to provide you any insight on someones qualities imo, and therefore a diploma means shit when you want to comes to grading someones qualities other than him having some form of intelligence.

Of course if you think these courses are helpfull they're probably worth the money. But it is possibe to learn virtually the same at home with some competent people around you.

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at 40, when you have no education and all you have to rely upon is the ability to make massive rave tracks in fruity loops, you will look back and remember what i said.

think outside the box.

music production does not pay the bills for 99% of the people that do it(even some "famous" ones), why not learn other uses for that skill set.

music production = working for yourself.
working for others = qualifications and training.

you will say no, but people who hand out contracts for projects will say yes.

there is more to sound engineering than art.

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elfreak is right, i plan on enrolling in an audio engineering course to further my production career

with that education i'll be able to work with audio in almost every field, i want to get into film myself

also, audio engineering = working with audio before it reaches the speakers, album producers and such

sound engineering = working with sound after it leaves the speakers, like setting up club sound systems

just to clarify because audio and sound engineering are 2 completely different things

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it was just a generalization

although sound engineers do more than just take care of what comes out of the speakers after the fact.

In a television studio, the sound engineer is the one that is involved with the mic set up to assure the best recording quality.

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troof, sound is audio in a physical environment while audio is sound in a digital or other manipulatable environment, better?

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I'm not saying diploma's are a bad thing. Just be careful which ones you enroll into. A lot of them overcharge, offer way to little in return and in the end learn you close to nothing. And then they hand you a shitty certificate virutually noone cares about. It's not so much about thinking outside the box, it's mostly being realistic. However, being capable of doing a wide variety of things in music is VERY important these days because there's demand for all in 1 packages. People don't want 5 different experts for the job if 1 person can do all (even if it means a slight drop in quality)

For now I've only met people that only care about references and my interests, not so much my educational background or my current one (Applied Art & Technology). I practice multiple professions and I'm self-employed. I'm studying for my bachelor, it's close to music but broad enough to be capable of doing way more than just that when graduating.

Maybe we're spoile here with our educational system. I guess so. You can do a 4 year bachelor (with optional master being a couple of weeks longer) for just 6K... Personally, I think 8K is rediculous for a 6 month course. I don't think it's worth it. You can't put price tag on proper education, but this just seems blatantly over-priced. That's the problem with commercial courses I guess... As I said, Dutch people are spoiled

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