http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1031568.html
So, is Bush going to cause a lot of minor(and by minor i mean major) conflicts for the new president? And do you believe that either candidate will do anything different from attacking and invading?

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1031568.html So, is Bush going to cause a lot of minor(and by minor i mean major) conflicts for the new president? And do you believe that either candidate will do anything different from attacking and invading?

poor tactics. if those were people coming into iraq perhaps the US should have waited until they actually came into iraq. why are these things not done more covertly?

anyway, i like the response, "syria reserves the right to respond." what exactly does that mean? syria wants to respond but really doesn't want to get its ass handed to it. although if the US wants to foster better relations with the syrians, perhaps handing out the fig branch and doing something jointly with the syrians would go a small way to begin mending the relationship.

This is ridiculous. No respect for sovereignty.

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I'm reading the comments from the link and by golly there are alot of racist people around the world.

They seem clueless and arrogant like firestarter etc.

I've already voted for Obama so I feel I can freely post my feelings on this subject without just being labelled a neo-con.

If Syria is harboring terrorists who have been fueling the fire in Iraq then I'm glad the US stepped up and did something. Same is true for Pakistan regarding Afghanistan. The US ends up looking weak if it doesnt evantually respond to some of these instances.
I mean look, we went into Iraq, and I agree with some of Krypton and Trancer's sentiments regarding the errors/mistakes of this war, but at the same time the US did try to give control of Iraq to ALL of its citizens. Some Middle Eastern governments, such as those of the UAE, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia, are glad there's American presence in Iraq. Other countries in the Middle East as well as outside of it (namely Russia) see it as a threat to their own interests in Iraq. I really dont think its fair to place all of the blame on the US government.
Back to the subject at hand, I wouldnt be surprised if it was some high ranking Syrian officials that gave the US the intel and even green light to go into Syria. Officially though Syria has to look like its furious, but internally/unofficially Syria would actually like to strengthen its ties with the US and France.

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Originally posted by CHRles I've already voted for Obama so I feel I can freely post my feelings on this subject without just being labelled a neo-con. If Syria is harboring terrorists who have been fueling the fire in Iraq then I'm glad the US stepped up and did something. Same is true for Pakistan regarding Afghanistan. The US ends up looking weak if it doesnt evantually respond to some of these instances. I mean look, we went into Iraq, and I agree with some of Krypton and Trancer's sentiments regarding the errors/mistakes of this war, but at the same time the US did try to give control of Iraq to ALL of its citizens. Some Middle Eastern governments, such as those of the UAE, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia, are glad there's American presence in Iraq. Other countries in the Middle East as well as outside of it (namely Russia) see it as a threat to their own interests in Iraq. I really dont think its fair to place all of the blame on the US government. Back to the subject at hand, I wouldnt be surprised if it was some high ranking Syrian officials that gave the US the intel and even green light to go into Syria. Officially though Syria has to look like its furious, but internally/unofficially Syria would actually like to strengthen its ties with the US and France.

Is Iraq's sovereignty America's responsibility or Iraq's? Why are we taking on Iraq's problems? Additionally, this excuse that, "We had to pursue Al-Qaeda operatives. Al-Qaeda is a MYTH. Any nutjob can get a group of disenfranchised unemployed men together and call themselves "Al-Qaeda of Mesopotamia" or "Al-Qaeda of Arabia". It's total bullshit. Our government is lying to us.

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Originally posted by CHRles If Syria is harboring terrorists who have been fueling the fire in Iraq then I'm glad the US stepped up and did something.

I would love to see some actual proof of this.Iam almost cetain that US has no evidence to support this.

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Same is true for Pakistan regarding Afghanistan. The US ends up looking weak if it doesnt evantually respond to some of these instances.

A wise man once said: "when we attack them we called it war but when they attack us we call it terrorism".

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I mean look, we went into Iraq, and I agree with some of Krypton and Trancer's sentiments regarding the errors/mistakes of this war,

Oh will you please just admit that the whole invasion was a mistake to begin with?invading Iraq didnt end the war on terror and it didnt bring stability to the region.

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but at the same time the US did try to give control of Iraq to ALL of its citizens. Some Middle Eastern governments, such as those of the UAE, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia, are glad there's American presence in Iraq.

And why do you think they feel that?I can tell you that it has alot to do with oil and the fact that they were afriad of saddam having control over the region.At the same time getting rid of him didnt make things any better since Iraq is time bomb and it could go off any time and over and over again.

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Other countries in the Middle East as well as outside of it (namely Russia) see it as a threat to their own interests in Iraq. I really dont think its fair to place all of the blame on the US government.[quote] Again it comes down to oil and yes everyone wants a piece of the pie in the region. p.s. I highly recommend you to watch the movie W. and watch the part were Dick Cheney is infront of the map of middle east were he goes on about the ultimate master plan for the region.It was very scary actually. [quote]Back to the subject at hand, I wouldnt be surprised if it was some high ranking Syrian officials that gave the US the intel and even green light to go into Syria. Officially though Syria has to look like its furious, but internally/unofficially Syria would actually like to strengthen its ties with the US and France.

This could actually be true.I know that Iran has done things like that in the past in Iraq and afghanistan.Too bad they are still being labled as terrorists by this admininstration over and over again.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer I would love to see some actual proof of this.Iam almost cetain that US has no evidence to support this.

There probably is some. But than again there could even be evidence that it is the CIA financing terrorists in Syria.

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A wise man once said: "when we attack them we called it war but when they attack us we call it terrorism".

There is nothingn wise about Bill Maher.

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Oh will you please just admit that the whole invasion was a mistake to begin with?invading Iraq didnt end the war on terror and it didnt bring stability to the region.

The whole war was not a mistake. The people were just lied to about the reason for the war. And most cannot think about the real reason why the war happened.

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And why do you think they feel that?I can tell you that it has alot to do with oil and the fact that they were afriad of saddam having control over the region.At the same time getting rid of him didnt make things any better since Iraq is time bomb and it could go off any time and over and over again.

Wrong. Saddam would never have gotten control of the region, even if there had been no US intervention, who is he Cyrus the Great?

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This could actually be true.I know that Iran has done things like that in the past in Iraq and afghanistan.Too bad they are still being labled as terrorists by this admininstration over and over again.

Yes, yes, yes, yes!!! You are so right

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hate to interrupt your thread, but please check your PM

thanks

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer I would love to see some actual proof of this.Iam almost cetain that US has no evidence to support this.

...as I am almost certain you have no way of refuting it...

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru There probably is some. But than again there could even be evidence that it is the CIA financing terrorists in Syria.

Why arent they presenting it to everyone then?I mean they must have had a good reason to launch those attacks right?

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There is nothingn wise about Bill Maher.

and you would know right?

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The whole war was not a mistake. The people were just lied to about the reason for the war. And most cannot think about the real reason why the war happened.

Wait what reason are you talking about?they changed their so called reason of war so many times.I doubt they even know the reason themselves anymore.Tell us whats the real reason then?war on terror?

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Wrong. Saddam would never have gotten control of the region, even if there had been no US intervention, who is he Cyrus the Great?

How are you so sure about that?

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Yes, yes, yes, yes!!! You are so right

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