listen to trance u like, find out what u like about it, analyze structure, levels etc. im not saying you should copy the tracks just find out what u like about them and try remember it when you start ur own track.

keep in simple,dont over examine things. start from the bottom ie make a good bassline and build a track around it. and find all pro's and con's of the music software you are using.

u could consider a diferent daw if u dont feel u understand it after a year. reason is like u either get it realy fast, or u dont at all, ever. maybe try other stuff like ableton etc.

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Originally posted by palm u could consider a diferent daw if u dont feel u understand it after a year. reason is like u either get it realy fast, or u dont at all, ever. maybe try other stuff like ableton etc.

I personally love reason and was able to do some a lot of awesome stuff in it, but in the end i realized how much i couldnt stand the sequencer and piano roll so felt i had to move away.

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i like reason quite a bit and can do a lot with it.

what i would suggest is obviously keep practicing, use your ears to listen and really hear how other songs are made.

but also get "mutekki vengeance essential club sounds 1 & 2", and get some good refills geared toward trance. i think "sonic flavours-digital art trance station" is the best that i have seen.

also go to nonstop2k2.com and down load some midi files. have a look at how people are making basslines and synth lines. there's lots you can learn from there.

other then that just keep playing and always have fun. good luck

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Originally posted by rriparetti Hey guys, Im wondering if you know of any guide or any tutorial, ANYTHING that helped you make trance. Im having a hard time trying to find the sounds I am looking for, sounds that are normally found in trance, that I am lacking the skills to produce in Reason. I know this sounds really noobish of me, but I have been making trance for a little less than a year and I still sound like shit. Proof? [[ LINK REMOVED ]] That was my remix of Children by Robert Miles.. my first remix, and probably my 10th song I made on reason. They say it gets better progressively, but it truly hasnt for me. I have no idea on structure, all I know is that there is a intro, then main part, break down, main part, then outro. Can someone please link me a guide or tutorial, give me advice, something, that can help me make trance?

http://au.youtube.com/user/hydlide24

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=0YOX2iBZE90
10 part tutorial on making a trance song from scratch, what synths, kick etc... along with the melodies etc. More to the point... you see how they flow with each other as they are added and everything.

Too bad I don't like (mainstream) trance much :P

Haha, I think so far I've used every synth in thor except the multi oscillater one.

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Originally posted by Stef I personally love reason and was able to do some a lot of awesome stuff in it, but in the end i realized how much i couldnt stand the sequencer and piano roll so felt i had to move away.

I just got a hold of Reason 4 and was loving Thor and the new arp machine.
I haven't used Reason in years so it was quite pleasing at first, almost to the extent where I was considering abandoning FL.

Then after I got some sounds crunching I go down to the sequencer, mess around for 2 mins, than go to file > exit.

Its sad because I really love a lot about Reason and think it can be a great program, w/out a couple MAJOR setbacks.

Oh and in response to the OP have you got the ask Reason dvds?

They are packed with everything most people would need to know, + obviously a bit of experience.

Let me know if you need them.

I think reason is a good place to start when first getting into producing your own tracks. Get to know how to program each of the synths in Reason and how each of their parameters affect the sound.

I found that after learning how to program the synths in reason helped me out a lot when moving onto other DAWs and using various VSTs. Plus if there's certain synths you like in Reason, you could always ReWire it to another DAW and have the best of both worlds.

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Originally posted by Resequenced I think reason is a good place to start when first getting into producing your own tracks. Get to know how to program each of the synths in Reason and how each of their parameters affect the sound. I found that after learning how to program the synths in reason helped me out a lot when moving onto other DAWs and using various VSTs. Plus if there's certain synths you like in Reason, you could always ReWire it to another DAW and have the best of both worlds.

Great point with the rewire, as much as I know I can and want to do it for some reason I never do.

May go play around with it right now actually.

THis will fix your problem this is exactly what you need.

A masterclass in making trance in reason

http://www.computermusic.co.uk/page...m_tutorial_pdfs

CHeck down the list it is in 3 parts and even has the midi files to download. Its a complete step by step guise to making trance its called trance masterclass

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