what software are you running because i found using tbs can make some awsome plucks

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Filter settings can make a MASSIVE difference on plucks.

Try playing with resonance on a lp12/lp24 filter use very fast attacks and a long sustain.

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Originally posted by airwalker1 what software are you running because i found using tbs can make some awsome plucks

TB 303?

I'm running various synth plugins..

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nexus is the best for plucks it has like 30-40 pluck leads and more in the single layer lead bank that comes with it. all the ones you hear out there anyway.

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PLucks are mainly about the decay and attack settings, they usually don't have any sustain AFAIK. Fiddle with resonance, filter envelope and amp envelope, as well as oscillator settings. I use massive for plucks usually, the options can be a bit overwhelming.

In miracle (assuming you mean original mix), I think the pluck is actally either FM or physical model. I'd say probably FM. Which I know almost nothing about, but just have a play around in FM8 and see what you come up with.

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negative filter envelope with filter cutoff set fairly high
mess with the filter attack and decay
on the amp envelope use a fast attack, short decay, no sustain/release.....should get u most of the way there

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i wouldn't bother with the nexus ones. Its so easy to make them yourself and have much more control over automation and parameters etc. Nord lead 2 and the waldorf pulse are my favorite for plucks. You just need a synth with snappy envelopes and a very basic knowledge of subtractive synthesis.

Toca me used a preset from a classic sound module although i can't remember which one. I read it in an article back in 1998 or 1999 whenver it was released. Lots of other recognisable leads from that era also used presets from sound modules and synths i.e atb - till i come, faithless insomnia etc.

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Originally posted by dannib i wouldn't bother with the nexus ones. Its so easy to make them yourself and have much more control over automation and parameters etc. Nord lead 2 and the waldorf pulse are my favorite for plucks. You just need a synth with snappy envelopes and a very basic knowledge of subtractive synthesis. Toca me used a preset from a classic sound module although i can't remember which one. I read it in an article back in 1998 or 1999 whenver it was released. Lots of other recognisable leads from that era also used presets from sound modules and synths i.e atb - till i come, faithless insomnia etc.

I was gonna say it but didn't want to start a flame war. Nexus is rubbish. Generic rubbish.
And that actually makes sense, probably the pluck referred to is actually a "guitar" sample from a roland or korg module... Shoulda thought of that.

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Originally posted by kitphillips I was gonna say it but didn't want to start a flame war. Nexus is rubbish. Generic rubbish. And that actually makes sense, probably the pluck referred to is actually a "guitar" sample from a roland or korg module... Shoulda thought of that.

Regarding those classic plucks, I know that many producers were using the Rolang JV1080. That might come from that legendary module that Roland never released as a softsynth... shame on them!

Ok, for the info, you have several Roland modules sharing the exact same technology but with different waveforms. No way you can upgrade to get the other's sounds. So there's the JD-800 that started it all, for me one of the best roland synths ever. Then they released the jv80 that was based on the same technology, that shared only 20% of its soundbank. Then there was the JV-1080 that was expandable, same exact thing... only a few sounds were the same (pizzicato, insomnia anyone??, or the guitars, and so on).

Other synths that guys were using back in that time: Kurzweil k2000, Korg Trinity/Triton, Quasimidi Raven, E-mu Orbit and Planet Phatt, Yamaha CS1X, Roland JD990, Korg 01W and T series (X2/3/5, 03R and so on are the same series).

The fact that none of those is available as a softsynth is basically the reason why many people buy and/or use Nexus nowadays. Love it or hate it, but it features a sound library that sampled all of those synths among others. Nexus looks great for those cliché sounds at first sight, but I can't tell if it's worth it diggin deeper into its synthesis. I already have too much here (I'm trying to sell my Reaktor and Massive licenses in order to get Kontakt instead) so I don't think I'll ever buy it.

It could be the jv-1080. I know there were expansion boards that may have featured that guitar pwm sound.

Nexus doesn't sound so bad at a fist listen, its when you take away the fx that they have completely drowned the patches in that it starts to sound rubbish. Why are they so drenched in fx? Without the fx it sounds grainy and as if they have only multisampled 2-3 notes per octave of each sound.

Yes guys I can't remember exactly, but there was a synth guitar patch (probably the original) in the Techno xpansion board of my XP-80 that I sold to buy the bug synth Juno-G...

Juno-G has all the waveforms os JVs/XPs (including the ATB guitars, JV dance pianos..) but not all waveforms from classics xpansions boards...

tks for the ideas I'll try Nexus at first..

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