I dont like ultrabeat, but i am a mac'o'phobe so thats prob why

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I just could never get ultrabeat to sound good! Sounds like software to me.
I still rewire redrum into logic to get drum patterns.

I have lost faith in drum machines to be honest. i tested mixing a kick drum from redrum down to see shape of wave and compared to original sample and the redrum one had shrunk.

now I just load samples in direct and process them individually I find I get a brighter clearer sound.

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Originally posted by Sonic_c I have lost faith in drum machines to be honest. i tested mixing a kick drum from redrum down to see shape of wave and compared to original sample and the redrum one had shrunk. now I just load samples in direct and process them individually I find I get a brighter clearer sound.

I don't have this problem redrum is fucking ace.

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Originally posted by Sonic_c I have lost faith in drum machines to be honest. i tested mixing a kick drum from redrum down to see shape of wave and compared to original sample and the redrum one had shrunk. now I just load samples in direct and process them individually I find I get a brighter clearer sound.

Are you sure? Was the velocity of the kick right, was it going through just one mixer with volumes at 100%? no compression on anything?

Ive not tried it myself, but I would of thought all things being equal they would produce identical results.

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Originally posted by Sonic_c I have lost faith in drum machines to be honest. i tested mixing a kick drum from redrum down to see shape of wave and compared to original sample and the redrum one had shrunk. now I just load samples in direct and process them individually I find I get a brighter clearer sound.

I also sometimes think that drum machines aren't that good (but I'm not that good mixer/sound producer...so it might be just that I'm not good enough for the drum machines)

Where do you get your drum sounds/samples?

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I didn't like ultrabeat, either. Never got to use it, until 12 months ago when I checked the synth features of it as well as the routing and triggering in there. Now it's become a companion. I think I got the same going with Sculpture now.

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Originally posted by pwnage1 I don't have this problem redrum is fucking ace.

true that

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Originally posted by Jimb0b Are you sure? Was the velocity of the kick right, was it going through just one mixer with volumes at 100%? no compression on anything? Ive not tried it myself, but I would of thought all things being equal they would produce identical results.

Yeah I checked everything. Audio out of reason is never as good as the direct sample wehn used in an audio editor just my opinion. I know lots of reason lovers out there and i love it for sidechaining the synths are great effects everything. Just not a fan of itsa sound quality over using a sample direct seems to dullen it and lower vol a bit. Try urself take a kick in redrum and do a mixdown in cubase or whatever then load that kick in direct to cubase and compare results.

Also its bound to colour it a little coming through a redrum -> mixer -> Hardware interface -> rewire -> cubase right?

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