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Originally posted by DjWhooCares i mean, if we legalize a drug, wouldn't that give the cartels more leeway?

No. There's a reason the cartels deal in illegal drugs, but not the legal variety: limited competition. They couldn't compete in the market for now-legal drugs. If now-illegal drugs were legalized, they would not be able to compete in that market, either.

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Originally posted by Arbiter No. There's a reason the cartels deal in illegal drugs, but not the legal variety: limited competition. They couldn't compete in the market for now-legal drugs. If now-illegal drugs were legalized, they would not be able to compete in that market, either.

They are the only suppliers and would be in a much better position in the market. Honestly, if I wanted, I could get almost any well-known narcotic I wanted here in El Paso, even though it's all illegal. It's not hard at all. So obviously, the prohibition policy is failed.

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In his veto, Cook said, "It is not realistic to believe that the United States Congress will seriously consider any broad based debate on the legalization of narcotics. That position is not consistent with community standards both locally and nationally. I urge Council to reconsider supporting the original wording as recommended by the Committee."

that position isn't consistent? who are the council representing if not the local community?

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I think the cartels need for the drugs to be illegal in order to secure immense profits. The battle over the drug trafficking corridors is fueling the violence. Of course there would still be groups who would deal in smuggling arms, people, and untaxed goods, but legalizing the drugs would go a long way to curb the money brought in by the major cartels.

As long as Americans are willing to pay for black market items there will be Mexicans willing to smuggle those goods for the right price.

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Geez. El Paso is one of the safest cities in America. I have yet to see a "ghetto" area of the town. But when I look at Juarez from UTEP, I see shacks and dirt roads as neighborhood streets. That place is a SHIT HOLE. With 1600 murders in 2008, it's like living next to Baghdad. And I'm not going to lie, the drugs are fucking pure.

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if its legalized on a local level, that cant stop the DEA from swooping in does it? My frame of reference is what happened to various dispensaries in California, where the local cops just stood and watched the DEA break, enter, and seize all the ganja

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Originally posted by Krypton Geez. El Paso is one of the safest cities in America.

Dude my mother was born in Juarez and her side of the family live in El Paso, that whole friggin area is a sleaze pot- I hated living there in the 70s and haven't gone back since 2002.

I say give it back to Mexico.

The food is great

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Originally posted by Dale Gribble that whole friggin area is a sleaze pot

well, lets not make this into a bash el paso issue..
srsly el paso is not a bad place to live in..
a bit boring..yes..but its rlly safe n shit..

back to topic
at this point, we need to try ANYTHING, since all of mexico is corrupt.
these ******s do not care about who gets killed or how the drugs happen to make it past our borders..

i srsly hate these fucking drug cartels...


20 killings in juarez already in this new year...

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If El Paso is so safe, why legalize drugs to make it less dangerous?

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov If El Paso is so safe, why legalize drugs to make it less dangerous?

Profits as they are shipped on to other counties?

I'm of the opinion that prohibition doesn't work. Unfortunately the economics of having a drug war are massive. Think of all the police jobs and cartel jobs that would not exist if there wasn't such a thing as 'prohibited' substances. Not to mention all those guns that wouldn't need to be sold.

That means there's a rather strong, and well armed, pro-prohibition lobby.