Hmmm, interesting. It would be interesting to compare these statistics to Canada in general, or other major North American cities. I'm sure a comparison of Toronto and other major North American cities would yield similar results.

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Originally posted by The Highroller Hmmm, interesting. It would be interesting to compare these statistics to Canada in general, or other major North American cities. I'm sure a comparison of Toronto and other major North American cities would yield similar results.

yes the article did mention that this is an emerging trend across major cities throughout Canada and not necessarily specific to Toronto

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Originally posted by dEsidEL yes the article did mention that this is an emerging trend across major cities throughout Canada and not necessarily specific to Toronto

I always thought the trend of increased income disparity in North American cities has been known for a while. I guess it would depend on how you would define "emerging" though.

It is however interesting to see how this trend relates specifically to Toronto. That interactive map was really enlightening. I'm still looking at it, lol.

beaches.

hopefully i can afford to move back across those train tracks one day.

Clearly this means we need to raise taxes and start taking in a lot more East Asian immigrants.


Actually, being serious for a minute, it's pretty logical if you think about it. High immigration means more poor areas (they will be better off eventually but obviously they start poor), and an increase in the number of "rich" areas implies that part of the middle class is becoming more affluent, which again should not be surprising.

What is surprising is that they got some loony tunes analyst to say that it's a lack of affordable housing and job protection that's killing the middle-class neighbourhoods. Has this guy ever actually been to a municipal housing project?

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Originally posted by dEsidEL yes the article did mention that this is an emerging trend across major cities throughout Canada and not necessarily specific to Toronto

i don't have specific numbers for the middle class, but what has happened here is that the center has become more and more poor, while the families and rich(er) people continue to flee to the first and second ring of suburbs.

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Its logical that new immigrants flock to the large cities where typically there is more opportunities for them. As Digi stated, they typically start out poor but given time they do move up the ladder.

Its not surprising that the middle class is shrinking within the GTA. The middle class cannot afford to live in the GTA, which is why most of them move to areas like Mississauga, Milton, Georgetown, etc. Those that have done well for themselves are no longer middle class.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced Its not surprising that the middle class is shrinking within the GTA. The middle class cannot afford to live in the GTA, which is why most of them move to areas like Mississauga, Milton, Georgetown, etc. Those that have done well for themselves are no longer middle class.

Mississauga is part of the GTA...

Mississauga, Brampton, Vaughn, Markham, Richmond Hill, Pickering, would be the first suburban ring around Toronto, no?

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Originally posted by Spam Mississauga is part of the GTA... Mississauga, Brampton, Vaughn, Markham, Richmond Hill, Pickering, would be the first suburban ring around Toronto, no?

Brampton would not be in the first ring.

this is not taking into account the growth of middle class in suburbs (like sauga and brampton) to compensate. toronto proper is less than half the population of the the official GTA.

interesting to see the Etobicoke snobby stronghold that survived the tests of time-i know a few verrrrrry bitchy girls from that area.

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Originally posted by Spam Mississauga is part of the GTA... Mississauga, Brampton, Vaughn, Markham, Richmond Hill, Pickering, would be the first suburban ring around Toronto, no?

Sorry...I should have said Toronto Proper.

Those are all part of the first suburban ring...as you mentioned.

Personally, I see the same thing happening in this first suburban ring as you see happening in Toronto....it seems the middle class is geing pushed further and further away from Toronto. Some because of choice and others because of economics.

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