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s.vp50
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A few thoughts on Beatport...

1) When you sit down to listen to tracks on beatport, how long does it take you to decide whether to move on to the next track or to keep listening? It takes me just a few seconds. Is this too short? There's just so many new tracks that I can't spend a minute on every single one.

2) What is your percentage of tracks purchased to tracks listened to. Mine is very low...like 1/2% (1 track in 200, usually more).

3) Call me crazy but I think there is alot of 'amateurish' sounding tracks on there. I respect the fact that someone loves EDM enough to produce something from his/her heart but that's just the impression I get from listening to so many tracks.

4) What is needed to have a track listed on beatport? For example: lets say some kid in his basement produces EDM, how much does it cost him (aside from equipment, etc.) to list a track? How is a record label involved in this?

I would love to hear all of your thoughts on this. I love beatport and I have been thinking about these things for a while. Cheers!

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nefardec
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Re: A few thoughts on Beatport...

quote:
Originally posted by s.vp50
1) When you sit down to listen to tracks on beatport, how long does it take you to decide whether to move on to the next track or to keep listening? It takes me just a few seconds. Is this too short? There's just so many new tracks that I can't spend a minute on every single one.

2) What is your percentage of tracks purchased to tracks listened to. Mine is very low...like 1/2% (1 track in 200, usually more).

3) Call me crazy but I think there is alot of 'amateurish' sounding tracks on there. I respect the fact that someone loves EDM enough to produce something from his/her heart but that's just the impression I get from listening to so many tracks.

4) What is needed to have a track listed on beatport? For example: lets say some kid in his basement produces EDM, how much does it cost him (aside from equipment, etc.) to list a track? How is a record label involved in this?

I would love to hear all of your thoughts on this. I love beatport and I have been thinking about these things for a while. Cheers!


so is this richie hawtin, john acquaviva, ...?

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keithos27
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Registered: Nov 2003
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1. At this point I usually stick to labels/producers I recognize so on average I usually give any song I cue up a good 2 minute listen, unless I just really don't like the track. There are some tracks where I just move on after 10 seconds.

2. Mine is probably like 25%, but that's a guess. Maybe a bit lower.

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Seppuku
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Too many times have I bought tracks that really caught my attention, and when I hear it in full...something ruins it that wasn't in the sample. So lately I've been trying to find longer samples elsewhere to make sure I will definitely play, then buy it.

The only way to get a track listed is to get it signed to a label that is accepted by beatport.


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s.vp50
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Originally posted by Seppuku
Too many times have I bought tracks that really caught my attention, and when I hear it in full...something ruins it that wasn't in the sample. So lately I've been trying to find longer samples elsewhere to make sure I will definitely play, then buy it.

The only way to get a track listed is to get it signed to a label that is accepted by beatport.


good point. djdownload has a cool feature where you can scan all parts of the track but they don't always have all the tracks that beatport does.

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whiskers
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: in your dreams

Beatport does not work for me. I have $200+ in items in my cart but I'm not likely to spend it at this point.


I've spent over $200 on AudioJelly and will stick with it. Fuck you, Beatport 4.0 and your non-working interface!


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Unique2701
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I've spent over $200 on AudioJelly and will stick with it.


What bucks the shit out of me with Audiojelly is that I can't see the track length anywhere.


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Barachem
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Groningen, Netherlands

I still have to use my new method, but i'll explain it.

First i look up the nice rainbow unicorn trance choons on YouPube and then i buy it where ever it's cheapest, some trax on BeatPhart and some trax on AudioBelly.
I'm not a DJ, so it's a good method for me.

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THE_Chris
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Ireland

quote:
Originally posted by Unique2701
What bucks the shit out of me with Audiojelly is that I can't see the track length anywhere.


+no wav files FFS Audiojelly wake up.

I find Beatport useful for going through a lot of samples really quickly. I've found some gems by random browsing.

I can listen to 2-3 seconds of a track and tell if its a bad track.
Reasonable sounding tracks get the whole sample listened to.
After that I check samples elsewhere before I decide to buy it somewhere thats cheaper than Beatport.


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DJ Mikey Mike
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Registered: Jan 2002
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quote:
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I can listen to 2-3 seconds of a track and tell if its a bad track.


That's a crock of shit. You're not even listening to an 8 beat bar in 3 seconds. There is absolutely no way you can fairly judge and discard a track based on 3 seconds of it, and if you have been doing then you're an idiot.

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coroknight
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Registered: Apr 2008
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
That's a crock of shit. You're not even listening to an 8 beat bar in 3 seconds. There is absolutely no way you can fairly judge and discard a track based on 3 seconds of it, and if you have been doing then you're an idiot.


Exactly. I need to hear the whole track to judge it. Some tracks get really lame towards the end and some get awesome. Tracks do crazy things. However their are some things i listen for that will turn me off a track almost instantly. Such as hollow sounding percussion. I HATE that.


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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
That's a crock of shit. You're not even listening to an 8 beat bar in 3 seconds.


That's probably because dance music isn't generally in 8/4...


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