Neat video showing some famous names hanging out in their studios and making beats back in 1994. This is back when a 66 MHz computer went for around $5000, and people used floppy disks to load songs. Cool gear collections of course, and the clothes are classic as well:

Cool vid but the tracks are kinda crap except for the last one

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The amount of work that went into creating something so simple is mind blowing. I can't believe how far everything has come.

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Originally posted by bas The amount of work that went into creating something so simple is mind blowing. I can't believe how far everything has come.

This is why I think music was better back then.

As a producer, you had to listen to a song literally thousands of times before the finished product was done. This ensured it had longevity. These days, you only have to re-listen to your track fifty or a hundred times before it's finished, and it can be sloppier as a result.

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Originally posted by Domesticated This is why I think music was better back then. As a producer, you had to listen to a song literally thousands of times before the finished product was done. This ensured it had longevity. These days, you only have to re-listen to your track fifty or a hundred times before it's finished, and it can be sloppier as a result.

That makes no sense at all.

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Originally posted by woscar That makes no sense at all.

how does this make no sense at all? Think about it. Back in those days people had more heart and patience to make tracks. Now everyone wants to smash out songs as fast as possible, therefore as a result tracks are poorly produced and lack originality. Also, the more you listen to your track its more than likely you will get different ideas, be able to master and mix it as best as possible, and achieve that perfect sound you are looking for. Just my .02 cents.

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This whole nostalgia "better back in the day" argument gets stale especially when it's applied like a blanket around electronic music.

There is still TONS of good music being made. There's even more shit music being made out there as well. The only difference really seems that it's become much more easy and accessible. And all that means is that you had to rummage about a bit.

Yes, there are people who listen to tracks thousands of times over and there are people who slap it all together just to get it signed, forced onto the radio or into sets, and onto sites to cut checks or get exposure, but this isn't something that is just starting now with the onset of technology. It's been there all along, it's just now there's lots more people doing it in an era where everything is far more on display than it ever was before.

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Originally posted by woscar That makes no sense at all.

yea this really makes no sense.

I remember my friend Lisaya playing with this a long time ago (Amiga and Protracker):

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Originally posted by woscar That makes no sense at all.

Why?

When you had a hardware sequencer, it was a painstaking process to put together a track. You had to listen to each individual element over and over and over, and then again and again and again as you combined them all together. This meant that if a part of the track initially sounded good but got old after a few listens, you'd pick up on it.

These days, you don't have to listen to the track as much when you're making it. Elements might sound good when you're producing, but then they could later get old. Newer producers don't pick up on this as much because they spend less time on each track. Thus some newer tracks have less longevity.

i don`t think you are totally right either.

a blanket statement saying that absolutely no one puts the same effort into tracks as in the past is false.

yes it is more accessible (production) leading to much more crap being churned out, i will give you that. As mentioned before though, if you dig the quality can be found. Digging is nothing new you know, i remember when i started, to preview the tracks you had to get the guy behind the counter to put the record on for you. There was still tons of shit being released back in the day, the only difference being that without being able to preview from the comfort of your home at the click of a button you did not have the time to notice it as much.

it is also false to assume that every single producer is purely a software guy that just lumps a bunch of presets together like he liked cheese and dated minnie.

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Originally posted by Domesticated This is why I think music was better back then. As a producer, you had to listen to a song literally thousands of times before the finished product was done. This ensured it had longevity. These days, you only have to re-listen to your track fifty or a hundred times before it's finished, and it can be sloppier as a result.

i kind of agree with you but just for the sake of being a dick, i'm going to say that the only difference is that back then people spent a lot more time and money to make something equally shitty.