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floyd741
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Registered: Dec 2008
Location: Chicago
need help with a bass line

I've never been good at making bass lines, I usually stick to offbeat in a trance song. The thing is I'm working on something right now that would really benefit from a funky/deep bass line. That's why I would like some help with doing this because after a few attempts I've come to the realization that I suck

Here's the sample of what I'm doing: SAMPLE, still pretty empty since I just started about 20 minutes ago

Chords are: Cmaj7, Em7, Dm7, Fmaj7

All help is appreciated.


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Last edited by floyd741 on Jul-25-2009 at 20:12

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Evolve140
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Denver

Well you're gonna have to start focusing some time on music production studies, there's no magic way to instantly learn composing and producing basslines. This could take years, or it could take weeks and months. It just depends on the person.

Some things that might help:
* learning about envelopes including ADSR
* studying mixdowns so you can "fit" your kick with your bassline
* learning how to effectively duck your bassline if neccesary
* understanding oscillators and waveforms
* sound design including designing your own synths

Good luck!

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JmanNZ
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Registered: Sep 2008
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copy the baseline of another track that you like, thats what I do, makes you feel a little better and you learn while you do it. Your track is quite soft, I dont know how much diversity a baseline could get away with, but dont let me hold you back!

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floyd741
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Registered: Dec 2008
Location: Chicago

quote:
Originally posted by Evolve140
Well you're gonna have to start focusing some time on music production studies, there's no magic way to instantly learn composing and producing basslines. This could take years, or it could take weeks and months. It just depends on the person.

Some things that might help:
* learning about envelopes including ADSR
* studying mixdowns so you can "fit" your kick with your bassline
* learning how to effectively duck your bassline if neccesary
* understanding oscillators and waveforms
* sound design including designing your own synths

Good luck!


wtf? I asked for some help in making a bassline for this particular song, not for tips on how to begin producing music. Maybe telling me to learn about envelopes and oscillators would have helped some 7 months ago.


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orTofønChiLd
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Registered: Feb 2008
Location: Miami

quote:
Originally posted by Evolve140
Well you're gonna have to start focusing some time on music production studies, there's no magic way to instantly learn composing and producing basslines. This could take years, or it could take weeks and months. It just depends on the person.

Some things that might help:
* learning about envelopes including ADSR
* studying mixdowns so you can "fit" your kick with your bassline
* learning how to effectively duck your bassline if neccesary
* understanding oscillators and waveforms
* sound design including designing your own synths

Good luck!


I think he mean't he started the song 20 mins ago rather than producing

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Evolve140
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Denver

quote:
Originally posted by orTofønChiLd
I think he mean't he started the song 20 mins ago rather than producing




PS: this is my new project,

http://lego.zianet.com/tilda140/newtrack.mp3

and the bassline is funky and groovy. Most of the bassline is a perfected envelope, a tiny bit of EQ, compression, a tiny bit of reverb and side chain compression. so you can be defensive about it or you can actually heed my advice. if you really understood and practiced ADSR effectively then you wouldn't be asking "how to make basslines".

Last edited by Evolve140 on Jul-31-2009 at 22:13

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Re: need help with a bass line

quote:
Originally posted by floyd741
I've never been good at making bass lines, I usually stick to offbeat in a trance song. The thing is I'm working on something right now that would really benefit from a funky/deep bass line. That's why I would like some help with doing this because after a few attempts I've come to the realization that I suck

Here's the sample of what I'm doing: SAMPLE, still pretty empty since I just started about 20 minutes ago

Chords are: Cmaj7, Em7, Dm7, Fmaj7

All help is appreciated.


Find a bassline you like in another song and steal it.

quote:
Originally posted by Evolve140
Well you're gonna have to start focusing some time on music production studies, there's no magic way to instantly learn composing and producing basslines. This could take years, or it could take weeks and months. It just depends on the person.

Some things that might help:
* learning about envelopes including ADSR
* studying mixdowns so you can "fit" your kick with your bassline
* learning how to effectively duck your bassline if neccesary
* understanding oscillators and waveforms
* sound design including designing your own synths


I can masturbate too!

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orTofønChiLd
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Registered: Feb 2008
Location: Miami
Re: Re: need help with a bass line

quote:
Originally posted by Evolve140
PS: this is my new project,

http://lego.zianet.com/tilda140/newtrack.mp3

and the bassline is funky and groovy. Most of the bassline is a perfected envelope, a tiny bit of EQ, compression, a tiny bit of reverb and side chain compression. so you can be defensive about it or you can actually heed my advice. if you really understood and practiced ADSR effectively then you wouldn't be asking "how to make basslines".


the bassline is not bad but your bassdrum sounds weak, have anything on it?


quote:
Originally posted by meriter
Find a bassline you like in another song and steal it.



I can masturbate too!


lol

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Evolve140
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Re: Re: Re: need help with a bass line

quote:
Originally posted by orTofønChiLd
the bassline is not bad but your bassdrum sounds weak, have anything on it?




lol

not bad? let's hear some of yours

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Re: Re: Re: Re: need help with a bass line

quote:
Originally posted by Evolve140
not bad? let's hear some of yours


I think he's about to climax...

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orTofønChiLd
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Registered: Feb 2008
Location: Miami
Re: Re: Re: Re: need help with a bass line

quote:
Originally posted by Evolve140
not bad? let's hear some of yours


http://soundcloud.com/john-paullino/john-paullino

Yeah the lead is not that great, i just bought the komplete 5 and it came last night so yeah i'm still working on it

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Nightshift
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Registered: Oct 2005
Location: Sacramento, California

quote:
Originally posted by Evolve140
PS: this is my new project,

http://lego.zianet.com/tilda140/newtrack.mp3

and the bassline is funky and groovy. Most of the bassline is a perfected envelope, a tiny bit of EQ, compression, a tiny bit of reverb and side chain compression. so you can be defensive about it or you can actually heed my advice. if you really understood and practiced ADSR effectively then you wouldn't be asking "how to make basslines".


bassline is aight, nothing too crazy, as another person stated. but the bassdrum AND the bass both are pretty weak imo, for a house track it does not have the proper amount of bass that it should.

plus i think he trying more to focus on making a good bass pattern not on trying to make a bass. two completely differnet ballparks.

and before you challenge me on my "bass knowledge" as you did another user, u should have a listen to a electro house track i started but never finished.

[[ LINK REMOVED ]]


now THAT's bass

Last edited by Nightshift on Aug-01-2009 at 08:53

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