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Nadi
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Los Angeles, Californa,
cd vs vinyl

I already know that there have been a lot of posts debating between cd and vinyl for trance music, but they all deal with it from a point of djing. So my question is for personal use at home does vinyl have any real advantage over cds? Or vice versa.

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neo geo
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: louisiana u.s.a

dude i will put it like this
vinyl is more fun to collect than just some crappy mp3 cds and vinyl is more fun with hands on
i use cds for shit that does not come out on vinyl or if i get something before it comes out on record
sometimes i get stuff 3 to 4 months before its on vinyl and im the only one in my area playing it
vinyls are collects items,i will never sell mine and i love hunting for them that is what makes it fun being a dj
and would u want to go watch someone like pvd or tiesto or ferry or armin pop in cds all nite?What kind of show is that


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fr0st
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Brooklyn NY

vinyl also has a higher frequency response not to mention the classic analog sound

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_Nut_
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Registered: Nov 2001
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quote:
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vinyl also has a higher frequency response not to mention the classic analog sound


just to correct you. Vinyl and CD's have a frequency responce that the human ear can hear. it is the same. 20 - 20000 hertz. But i have to agree, the sound quality of vinyl IMO is much more rich and lively.

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justin
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: home

i started off using pionerr CDJ 700s and i just recently bought a pair of technics. i honestly think the sound quality of cds is better but maybe thats because i might need some new needles. but if i were to see a dj pop in CD after CD at the clubs i would pretty much hate him there afterwards. thats why i bought the real turntables. someday i will have most of the songs that i already have on cd on to vinyl , just as soon as i get out of this god forsaken island and back to America so i can find a better selection. in my opinion cds shouldnt even be compared because its pretty much the same thing. your just cheating yourself out of all the fun if your not using vinyl though.

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JM
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Registered: Dec 2000
Location: Seattle, USA
Re: cd vs vinyl

quote:
Originally posted by Nadi
I already know that there have been a lot of posts debating between cd and vinyl for trance music, but they all deal with it from a point of djing. So my question is for personal use at home does vinyl have any real advantage over cds? Or vice versa.


now what kind of a question is this??? of course vinyls have an advantage when it comes to mixing. i'll let someone else explain why.

>JM<

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lMIlk
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Registered: Aug 2001
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Re: Re: cd vs vinyl

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Originally posted by Juricimo


now what kind of a question is this??? of course vinyls have an advantage when it comes to mixing. i'll let someone else explain why.

>JM<


because they feel so good against your naked body

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EarnYourKeep
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: twentyonetwo

vinyl all the way
quote:

because they feel so good against your naked body

thank god..i thought i was the only one who thought so..


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CortexBomb
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Registered: Jun 2002
Location: Watching the Waves under Red Skies on My World

The thing is for a lot of tracks there's really not much debate to be had, you get it on vinyl or you burn it onto a disc.

For stuff that comes out on CD for *home use* I'd prefer to own the CD simply because CD's don't degrade, I love the sound of vinyl but let's face it, if you spin the track too many times the vinyl is going to end up worn out. This shouldn't be an issue if you're DJing as you'll only keep the song in your crate for a certain period of time but at home it's another story...

That's why I generally buy vinyls more as a fetish thing than a bona fide need...they're just more fun

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quddha
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Toronto, Ontario

lol, he didn't ask about mixing or dj'ing, he asked about for just listening at home. frankly, i don't like cd's... mainly because i don't have a cd player. :P And, most cd's you only like one or two songs on them anyways. I prefer MP3! just point and click load into winamp, and the sound quality, BAH I don't really care, still sounds good to me.

Records are just so bothersome to fish out of the record box and put on the turntable, and hten you gotta switch it every song... too much trouble, unless you buy an old juke box or something. haha. Plus they collect dust, get dirty and wear out, along with the needles. but I haven't had that problem yet. Still my #1 choice for dj'ing though.


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starglider
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Montreal, Canada

Well, a lot of the time you can't get tunes on CD, so vinyl is the way to go. But for purely home listening they have their drawbacks, such as their larger size, their tendency to degrade, as well as in many cases price or availability. Being uninvolved in DJing myself I would only buy a 12" if I really loved the song and a CD single wasn't an option. Otherwise singles and maxis are great and if you're prepared to wait a bit longer most of the bigger songs will see CD releases. It's especially good if you can snag a big maxi with all the mixes, as opposed to paying out your ass for several different vinyl releases.

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DJDavidScott
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Registered: May 2002
Location: New York , NY
It is all the same music

Okay, so this issue has been thrown around for years. Now that the Pioneer CDJ1000 is out, it is being discussed more. Vinyl is great, there is no denying it. It gives your the ability to keep the flow and mix hands on. It also allows you to see where you are in the track as well as cue up in seconds. I spin CDs ONLY. I begain DJing at a time when I could not afford to start a vinyl collection, so CDs was the answer for me. It is atually harder with CD (unless you have the DJ1000). Keeping a beat is tough because the speed is constantly changing and not being able to manually speed up or down the trak, it gets tough. It should be known that the sound system makes the music. No matter what you are using, the sound system will be the final judge.

Why would it bother you all if a big DJ was playing with CDs? Does the CD mix itself? Does the CD add effects? Does the CD cue itself up?? The art of DJing and mixing is in the mixer and your added tools (i.e. effects, samplers). Why do you thinkthe turntables are ususally mounted farther away from the DJ?? Your mixing skills, with your mixer is the key. When to turn your EQs, when to cut out your bass. Put the DJ behind a wall and listen. Will you tell the differece between the two??

Vinyl mixing is an art, as is CD mixing. Is this site called Vinyladdict??? Music is the answer people!


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