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Shini
Senior tranceaddict

Registered: Apr 2007
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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listen to the main mix as you bring the new track in, how you do this depends on if you mix only in your headphones or not. I use my headphones for beat matching and cueing a track but as I bring in it I'll take one side off and listen to the PA as I bring up the line fader, if its not loud enough I'll add more gain or more low end depending. I tend to worry more about the main output redlining, I don't like to drive any one channel to more than about +3 DB but sometimes you can't really help it, just remember to keep an eye on your overall volume as you mix so you don't run out room to get louder.
I find that some tracks, even though they look the same volume on the meter they don't sound it. Some tracks just don't sound as full or as big, to fix this a little EQ on the fly can be helpful but other times it just makes it sound like crap because it will bring the track elements out of balance with each other.
At least that is what I do...
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Aug-23-2009 08:12
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mfitterer1
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jul 2008
Location: Oregon
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I keep my gains at 3 yellows (leaving one more yellow before red). So it's impossible for distortion to occur. Since I use Traktor I then skip to the part of the song where it's the loudest and I adjust it to the correct gain. Then I go back to the part I'll be mixing in (the first minute or so) and see how high the gain is there. Usually when im mixing a track in I want one gain bar lower then the track already playing (so two yellows while the playing track has 3). This also makes it so that if there is a couple instances where the peak I set at 3 yellows goes up by a tiny bit, it has that 4th yellow before it's hitting the red.
I really don't understand why all club dj's redline the mixers. If you want it louder talk to the sound guy and have him tyurn up the system, maxing out the mixer output is just dumb.
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Aug-23-2009 09:13
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Domesticated
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Feb 2007
Location:
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| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
Okay, some terminology clarification:
The 'gain' is the rotary knob which controls the overall volume of a track, across all frequency bands.
The 'equalisers' are the three (or sometimes four) rotary knobs which control highs, mids and bass.
The 'fader' is the vertical control on each channel that also affects overall volume.
If you're mixing without touching the crossfader (i.e having it right in the centre), your process should be as follows:
1. Open the incoming track in your headphones. Fast fast forward to a place where the music is relatively intense and most of the main elements are present, especially bass. Watch your mixer's meter at this stage, the lights should be peaking at 0db (just below red/yellow) on most mixers. If it's not doing this, twiddle your gain knob until the heaviest beats are at the correct level.
2. Cue the track back to the start, or where ever you want to mix in from.
3. After hitting 'play' on the incoming track, you can then work the faders and/or equalisers as you see fit in order to mix the two tunes.
The gain knob is used only to make sure the two tracks being played are at the same relative volume before you start mixing them together. They should not be touched during transitions. That's what faders are for. |
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Aug-25-2009 05:06
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Domesticated
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Feb 2007
Location:
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Re: tips for maintaining consistent levels when mixing?
| quote: | Originally posted by Man_Devil
some tracks just seem to lack the 'oomph' that others have. What do you guys do in this situation? Do you just crank the gains so that the LEDs start hitting the red? |
If you're setting your gains correctly, this is usually because you are using a poor quality mp3 vs a good quality mp3.
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Aug-25-2009 05:08
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cliffm
Junior tranceaddict
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Orlando, FL
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I tend to just listen to the part that I'm mixing in when I cue and set the level with what is playing. Then I just ride them both out during the mix concentrating on keep a constant gain structure by using a combination of the gains and eqs on both tracks.
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Aug-25-2009 15:25
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Domesticated
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Feb 2007
Location:
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Re: Re: Re: tips for maintaining consistent levels when mixing?
| quote: | Originally posted by Jarvmeister
I don't agree. I think it's more to do with the method of production. |
I think that's also a big one. A heavily compressed tune will sound a lot punchier than a minimally compressed one.
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Aug-25-2009 23:12
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Ryan0751
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: May 2005
Location: Boston, MA
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You should be able to mix smoothly on a Urei 1620, a rotary mixer with:
1. No gain control
2. No eq's per channel
3. No LED meters
All you really need in the end is a volume control per channel and a good ear.
Of course we have all sort of fancy controls on newer mixers, but just really focus on the basics of bringing in a track using the faders for a while, and it'll make everything easier.
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Aug-26-2009 13:28
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