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Waza
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Registered: Feb 2008
Location: Scotland, Edinburgh
Confused Templates

How many of you actually start with a template for each song?

Like you have a drum rack of several kick's that you like on one channel another for hat's.

Then you have a channel with Midi's for sub basses - mid basses and so forth.

Also running Fx's send channels for the usual reverb delay.

All channels with an Eq attached to them also.

So basically you have all the instruments at first hand so your production flow can be continous.

The reason i'm asking is i feel when i start a new tune i'm taking far too long in getting it going, sure i have a nice kick and bass going but i feel instead of trawlling through my sound banks for a kick and hat's i could be doing in a more productive way at gettng the structure of the song going.

Anyone got any thoughts on this or tips......


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lcrqq
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Registered: May 2009
Location: Phoenix, USA

I have a preset template that I usually expand on for most songs. It has about 10 tracks laid out with instruments/fx that I use quite frequently. For instance I have 4 percussion tracks that have the EXS24 sampler with no instrument loaded (I use Logic Pro 8), and a few other tracks with synths I regularly use such as omnisphere, massive, and trilogy.

I also have 5 aux tracks ready to go. One with a 1/8 dotted delay, one with a 1/4 delay and the rest with reverbs with no patch selected.
There is also two tracks that are used for side chaining the usual kick/bass thing and one that is on the upbeat (for gating) that are muted and ready to go.

I also have all the tracks colored with the various colors I usually use relevant to the instrument so I don't have to do it later on.
It just seems to save time since I'm usually going to use those synths, verbs, and colors anyways.

It just increases my workflow since it decreases load time for instruments and setting up the session. It makes it easy for when I come home from work with an idea in my head to get it down as fast as possible.


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Nightshift
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Registered: Oct 2005
Location: Sacramento, California

I use Live so:

My default template is currently just 3 midi channels right now but im expanding it:

1 for the Kick with an empty Simpler loaded, also a Utility with 0% width and a filter to filter out some of the highs and extreme lows in a kick

1 for Bass which is pretty much laid out the same way as the Kick channel except without the Simpler

1 for all my Percs (Drum Rack) which just has a hpf at around 250hz on top.

im in the process in making my starting template more complex like Icrqq's, ESPECIALLY with the lovely effect racks in Live that you may create/customize to how you see fit. *nom nom nom*


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Falck
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Registered: Jun 2007
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden

I use a template every time, it taks too much time setting up reverbs, sidechain channels etc. every time one feels like making a new tune ...

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DJ RANN
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Hollywood....

quote:
Originally posted by lcrqq
I have a preset template that I usually expand on for most songs. It has about 10 tracks laid out with instruments/fx that I use quite frequently. For instance I have 4 percussion tracks that have the EXS24 sampler with no instrument loaded (I use Logic Pro 8), and a few other tracks with synths I regularly use such as omnisphere, massive, and trilogy.

I also have 5 aux tracks ready to go. One with a 1/8 dotted delay, one with a 1/4 delay and the rest with reverbs with no patch selected.
There is also two tracks that are used for side chaining the usual kick/bass thing and one that is on the upbeat (for gating) that are muted and ready to go.

I also have all the tracks colored with the various colors I usually use relevant to the instrument so I don't have to do it later on.
It just seems to save time since I'm usually going to use those synths, verbs, and colors anyways.

It just increases my workflow since it decreases load time for instruments and setting up the session. It makes it easy for when I come home from work with an idea in my head to get it down as fast as possible.


This is pretty dam close to what I do and in a way what you'd do in a pro studio for a composing/mix setup.

If you know the tools you go for everytime just bung them in a tamplate.

I also have 4 stereo aux's for verbs (blank) and 2 more for compressors (blank).

Oh, and if I'm using a drum sampler (battery/guru) then that will be already on there with my custom kit.

In all, I probably have 30 odd tracks in my template (including about 10 stereo audio tracks, 5 mono and 10 midi)

Then there's the master channel but that's a whole other conversation

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Eric J
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Registered: Nov 2006
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Yep. I have a template that has all my bus routing, environment setup, etc. I couldn't imagine trying to start a track without one.

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cryophonik
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Registered: Jan 2008
Location: Elk Grove, CA USA

I have about a dozen templates for Sonar. My "new project" templates have my various drum VSTi's routed in different combinations of each, effects busses set up, etc. I also have templates set up for recording various combinations of instruments (e.g., vocals & scratch track, vocals and guitar, etc.) with the outputs already assigned to my headphone amp, levels roughed in, etc.. They save me a ton of time.


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Zak McKracken
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Registered: Jun 2003
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my templates are blank.

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Waza
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Registered: Feb 2008
Location: Scotland, Edinburgh

well i've finally built the template so here's hoping it will be better.


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Subtle
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Urban Shakedown

I always start from nothing, no templates.


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Acton
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: London

I use a template, but it doesn't have any preloaded sounds, just the basic channels I use to build my tunes as well as the effects that I would use on them.

Once you have a production methodology, creating one can be a bit of a time saver.


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MSZ
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: kill me

hmm i've never really considered templates, i usualy try different techniques on every track i make, but im willing to give this method a try. I usually transfer in some elements from side projects once in a while though.

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