So I go on Wikipeida today and there's an appeal from the founder. I thought maybe the sight was shutting down. But no, they want people to donate money preserve the site and protect it? Okay. They want $10 million a year. What the hell! and then the founder talks about this so called organization he created in 2003 to preserve Wikipedia. In all these years I have used this site, i have never seen it have issues or ask for money. I mean, yes the site requires fundage to operate, but $10 million a year is absurd.

Here is the appeal letter:

http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki...n&target=Appeal

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10 million may seem a lot, but you must realize that Wikipedia is 6th most visited site and it needs operation funds for sure. I mean, it's an ad-free general use online encyclopedia. I see no problems asking for people to donate to keep the site running.

What do you think it costs to operate a site like that? Have you ever run a site even 1/1000th the size of Wikipedia? Ask Del how much it costs to run TA, then multiply by a metric shitload.

They've always depended on donations, just never really asked for them before. And it's not all for Wikipedia - if you actually read it, they give a detailed description of what they do with the money.

$10 million is hardly anything. It probably averages to less than 10 cents per user. If you don't want to donate, don't.

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Wikipedia gets 330 million unique visitors per month. On a site that I manage we get an average of seven page views per visitor. While I'm sure this number is much higher for wikipedia, that's about two and a half BILLION page requests per month.

Just because you don't have to pay for many things on the internet doesn't mean they don't cost anything to create and maintain.

They asked for money last year too. Not sure how many times they've done this type of campaign though.

I actually donated this year. I use it enough, and I think their revenue model is at least honest.

I also believe wikipedia is the single finest resource on the internet and wikipedia's prosperity benefits the entire world (directly or indirectly).

Shit I'd throw wiki some money...

I'm on there at least once a day...

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Originally posted by chinamon chinamon is INCH MOAN. LOL so fitting.

pretty soon most sites will involve some sort of payment. it wont be a lot of money but it will be something. I say good. People need to learn the value of content and creativity again. I think other than sept 11 the other major disaster of the last decade is the devaluation of media forms in our society. (music, movies, tv, radio and now books!)

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

wikipedia is one of the best resources on the internet, for free.
every single person has at some point used it for information, i dont see the big deal to donate money to them. i actually will right now.
did this infuriate you so much that you had to create a thread about it? lol gtfo

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Originally posted by Jayx1 pretty soon most sites will involve some sort of payment. it wont be a lot of money but it will be something. I say good. People need to learn the value of content and creativity again. I think other than sept 11 the other major disaster of the last decade is the devaluation of media forms in our society. (music, movies, tv, radio and now books!)

Most turn to the ad-supported model. Unless and until there is a trusted and established micropayment provider and the process takes only one or two clicks, ads and donations will continue to be the dominant revenue models.

And Wikipedia doesn't have ads, so donate.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Most turn to the ad-supported model. Unless and until there is a trusted and established micropayment provider and the process takes only one or two clicks, ads and donations will continue to be the dominant revenue models. And Wikipedia doesn't have ads, so donate.

its coming..

look for new computers to have a built in credit card reader in the near future. We will all pretty much have our own merchant terminals right in our own home.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1 pretty soon most sites will involve some sort of payment.

here in the US, there are lobbyists in Washington who want to ban free antenna based tv so everyone would have to pay to watch regular non-cable based programming

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