So as of late I've started picking up some nice gigs here and there with a residency on Fridays at a cool club however I've been frustrated with my DVS set up to say the least... or maybe it's just the the various (shit) setups you come across in clubs.

I run traktor with vinyl control.

Depending on the club you go to they often don't have their 1200's connected. You have to bring your own needles. The mixer is often shot and you're working off half the channels. They only seem to give a shit about whether or not the cdj's are in working order and hooked up.

In other words, I'm finding it a lot of hassle hooking up my system up every time i rock up to a club. There are so many pieces to my rig that it's taking away from the fun of dj'ing. There's always something not working or a channel that's fucked on the turntable. A ground wire that wont reach to the mixer.

Last night i had to play off one deck while syncing the next track in and so on, something i don't want to do nor do i enjoy it.

Anyway, i sometimes wish i just played on cd's. If i could practice on them i'd be more than happy to although i do find the looping functions in traktor invaluable and would imagine my set would suffer from any spontaneity that i give it at the moment.

I'm just a little disheartened. There's always something not quite working whenever you hook traktor up to a strange system. On your own one at home or at a friend's it's fine but when you're in a club and under pressure to hook the system up within 4 min it can get a little annoying when you don't know why it isn't working.

Just a little rant after having a very average night last night..

that is all..

I think it's the shit setups you've encountered.

You can always just show up with your Mac and a midi controller and mix internally if the mixer's fucked.

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Originally posted by woscar I think it's the shit setups you've encountered. You can always just show up with your Mac and a midi controller and mix internally if the mixer's fucked.

The turntables being fucked fair enough.. but i need the mixer to send the signal to the amps. Unless i can hook my soundcard straight up to the amps which is very difficult/impossible in most/all of the clubs i play at.

Could be the shit set ups i suppose.

It's just a drag sometimes having to unload the sound card, cables, midi controller, laptop, laptop charger, headphones, vinyl's and needles.

I think i'm just being a little bitch who needs to suck it the fuck up

Yeah man i feel ya. Have you thought of using just a controller instead? It will be less/smaller things you have to carry...and you can run traktor on internal mode.

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Or just somehow get some practice in on CDJs. Many of the clubs down here, unfortunately, have long removed their TTs or relegated tem to coasters for drinks. Sad.

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Originally posted by miamitranceman Or just somehow get some practice in on CDJs. Many of the clubs down here, unfortunately, have long removed their TTs or relegated tem to coasters for drinks. Sad.

I'm able to play on them but if i'm honest my mixes are more static. They're in and out transitions as opposed to looping and mixing things up a lot more.

What i should do is try and get some more practice in with using cdj's and traktor. Might make things a little easier.

will have to try it out next time i suppose.

I mean I just don't get it. If you're going to use Traktor use it all the way. Buy two X1's and be done with it. No problems all you have to depend on is your computer and you have a macpro so no issues there.

If you enjoy playing off TT's or CD's then play off them. So many people are attempting to have their cake and eat it too. The bottom line is Traktor is still proprietary technology. I think it is the best option on the market at the moment but I would never use timecode... I've seen how it can degrade the signal and I am an audiophile so I will never be comfortable sacrificing sound quality.

It's really simple if you ditch the TT's for 2 X1's.

yeah, I'd say just practice a bit with the cd timecodes as a back up. if you got vinyl down, I'm sure cdj's will be very quick to pick up on.

when you're at a club and vinyl is an option, shoot for that since you prefer it... but this way you have a back up plan in case it isn't an option

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Originally posted by mfitterer1 I mean I just don't get it. If you're going to use Traktor use it all the way. Buy two X1's and be done with it. No problems all you have to depend on is your computer and you have a macpro so no issues there. If you enjoy playing off TT's or CD's then play off them. So many people are attempting to have their cake and eat it too. The bottom line is Traktor is still proprietary technology. I think it is the best option on the market at the moment but I would never use timecode... I've seen how it can degrade the signal and I am an audiophile so I will never be comfortable sacrificing sound quality. It's really simple if you ditch the TT's for 2 X1's.

I know what you're saying and while it definitely is a good option I still like mixing tunes together. I'd find dj'ing extremely boring if i had two X1.. Hitting play and then tapping buttons to line up two tracks wouldn't really be something i'm into.

I think JD pointed out i might just start using the cdj's to mix on. Easier to set up and another variable is eliminated (needles).

The X1's do look sweet though. But my Dx2 will do me for the time being

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Originally posted by n3lly I'm able to play on them but if i'm honest my mixes are more static. They're in and out transitions as opposed to looping and mixing things up a lot more. What i should do is try and get some more practice in with using cdj's and traktor. Might make things a little easier. will have to try it out next time i suppose.

Yeah totally, that's what I meant. Sucks having to loose the vinyl like that, but I guess especially if you're playing out, business considerations should come first.

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Originally posted by n3lly I know what you're saying and while it definitely is a good option I still like mixing tunes together. I'd find dj'ing extremely boring if i had two X1.. Hitting play and then tapping buttons to line up two tracks wouldn't really be something i'm into. I think JD pointed out i might just start using the cdj's to mix on. Easier to set up and another variable is eliminated (needles). The X1's do look sweet though. But my Dx2 will do me for the time being

Just because there are options through the software to do that doesn't mean you have to use them; no?

The X1's are just controllers so that you never have to touch the actual computer. Just don't sync your tracks and it's identical to any other media and way of mixing. That's what IS great about Traktor... you can make it do what you want; no matter what that is.

I just ordered an X1. I want to start with 1 as I'm still wet behind the ears as far as dvs. I'm sure it will ease my workflow tons not having to worry about mouseclicks and doing everything with a controller makes me think it will add some of the fun that you lose going from other means to full dvs.

why is it that you need a pair of x1's anyway? or is it that you use 4 decks?

i only use 2 decks and am considering getting an x1, but i was thinking I'd just need one.