So I tried this stuff for the first time yesterday. Going in, it was described to me as "MDMA on crack." I couldn't disagree more. It did have the heightened levels of empathy and a general good feeling towards others and the environment I was in, but the downsides were not enjoyable at all. For one, (and this is a matter of preference for me) it is relatively short acting. It really only lasted for about 45 minutes total. It also seemed to give me a fairly intense headache on the comedown. The other was similar to cocaine imo. It seemed like the more you do, the more you want, and it leaves you craving it after you come down, which I've never had with MDMA.

The one cool thing I noticed, and again, this is completely a matter of preference, was an increased amount and intensity of eye "wiggles" that come with MDMA. That was enjoyable, especially with light shows.

Has anyone else tried this stuff and had any different experiences? I'm not sure if this is normal or if it was of not-so-good quality.

plant fertilizer? ugh..

eye wiggles are awesome though

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Originally posted by KilldaDJ plant fertilizer? ugh.. eye wiggles are awesome though

You do realise that it was sold as plant fertilizer simply to detract from the fact it was a drug don't you? It has never and could never be used to fertilize plants.

To the OP: I had EXACTLY the same views and effects as you. It was incredibly moreish. Eye wiggles, empathy, comfortable in my surroundings.

I ordered 5 grams from a site in the UK before it was outlawed, and that 5 grams I could not leave alone until it destroyed me, I had to give the last gram away because my nose was totally daffy ducked.

I thought it was an exact halfway house between the lovey doveyness of MDMA and the moreishness of coke.

Where are you from? I live in NY, and I believe the only state that it's illegal in in the US is North Dakota for whatever reason. I took about .4 last night, and only about .1 up my nose because it burned like nothing I've ever experienced before. I guess being able to order it online makes it convenient, but I'm not so sure it's worth it.

Tried some of this at an afterparty. Did nothing for me, although I was on a couple of other things at the same time so it's hard to tell.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 It really only lasted for about 45 minutes total.

Boooo!

that's really interesting - i've only gotten eye wiggles maybe 3 times now, and only once with any real intensity. every time i roll i say to myself 'dam i hope i get some wiggles....' lol

Yeah, I've heard it's like the 5th most popular drug in the UK. For me, it was a slow come-up, and the peak lasted for only about 20-30 minutes, but the eye wiggles were great. I love that feeling. It was probably the strongest I've ever had, and would last for spurts of about 5-10 seconds.

@LAdazeNYnights, I'm not sure if you're trying pills or powder, but you might want to try www.pillreports.com and look for something with MDA in it. In my experience, pills with MDA produce the strongest wiggles. ftw!

yah pills. i always check pillreports. i didn't know that - i'm always getting mdma pills i guess that must be the reason.
what's the difference otherwise?

The best way I could describe it is with E you feel all the emotional and spiritual connectivity possible, with MDA you see (hallucinate, visually experience) all the emotional and spiritual connectivity possible.

I've heard MDA called "electric mushrooms" which I thought was an awesome term for it.

What's eye wiggle? Tweaking?

it's when your eyes literally 'wiggle' inside your head. you'll be focusing on some lights, for instance, and then your eyes do what they would do if you were to shake your head from side to side..except you aren't shaking your head, your eyes are just going back and forth. it's so awesome!!!