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Originally posted by lay Hey guys, I know some of you use Live, so chances are you know how to achieve the following. I have three different midi-tracks (see image below). Is it possible to use an automation envelope in the first track, to automate a parameter in the second and third track? Maybe via Macros? I know I can manipulate several parameters via Macros over the audio effect rack, but for this the effects need to be in the same track. In my case, the effects are spread over two tracks. Image:

i dont think its possible but im not quite sure what you are trying to do?
Why dont you automate the parameter in the track itself rather than from a different track?

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I'm layering two pads and it would be cool to just use one automation, for example to increase the cutoff for both of the pads without doing that in each track separately.

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you can group them together and put a filter on the group.

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Originally posted by Nightshift you can group them together and put a filter on the group.

They're already grouped, so a filter would work on the group.
But I was hoping for a more universal approach, so I can modify some explicit parameters of the different synths/tracks (like with macros).

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I think its possible with macros but you might have to make sure to arm both tracks to record, like with sylenth1 (using midi learn i linked the cutoff to a knob) if I arm two tracks of it to record at the same time then if i use the knob to change the cutoff it does it for both tracks and also any keyboard keys i press play from both channels. hope maybe thats some help

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Originally posted by meriter Your primary focus should be making good music. That's all. No one gives a shit how you do it. And the people that do are fags.

actually now that i think of it im not sure that will help you lol, im not really sure what you are trying to do, like have one automation control automation for multiple parameters? i think the best bet you're gonna get is puting a filter on the group or making an instrument rack with multiple plugins that way you can macro within the same channel

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Originally posted by Nightshift like have one automation control automation for multiple parameters?

yes

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Originally posted by Nightshift ... or making an instrument rack with multiple plugins that way you can macro within the same channel

Thanks man, I think that's a promising idea which I'll try next.

Edit: Ok, looks like this is what I need. The downside is, that I can't set the values for the send-channels separately for the instruments.
Or is there a way around that limitation?

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Last edited by lay on Mar-06-2011 at 21:25

cant you just set the midi with the automation out to your soundcard/mididevice out, put up a midicable between out and in on the device and put up your instruments to recieve midi from same midi channel input? should work nice. required a mididevice of course, but i guess you have midi on your soundcard?

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Originally posted by 112268 cant you just set the midi with the automation out to your soundcard/mididevice out, put up a midicable between out and in on the device and put up your instruments to recieve midi from same midi channel input? should work nice. required a mididevice of course, but i guess you have midi on your soundcard?

yeah, I have midi ports, but this approach seems a bit complicated tbh

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its really not. i find it retarded that one cannot assign midi from one channel into a different channel in ableton though (should be able to recieve from any channel). please correct me if this is possible, but i dont think you would ask if it where. even Reason can do this.

yes you can but that's assuming all the CC's are the same for cut off, if he's using massive on channel 1 and the cut off is say 64 and he's using arturia on channel 2 and the cut off is 78 it won't work. instru chan or group is easiest