I think there's a lot of good points in there to think about.
I was laughing to myself the other day because of how easy it is to just look up a track on google and download it. It's faster than that actually going on beatport, logining in, and searching.
I do not know how DJs can stay fresh and original when everyone has the same pool of available tracks.
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Apr-16-2011 18:20
kitphillips
is actually a guy.
Registered: May 2006
Location: Sydney, Australia
Because the obscure tracks you ACTUALLY want to play aren't available on google. That's a great way to get a few popular tracks, and a few filler tracks, but if you're after the actual tracks that make people sit up and take notice, you need to buy them.
Originally posted by kitphillips
Because the obscure tracks you ACTUALLY want to play aren't available on google. That's a great way to get a few popular tracks, and a few filler tracks, but if you're after the actual tracks that make people sit up and take notice, you need to buy them.
Who are playing to? Sleeping hobos?
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Apr-17-2011 05:55
Lolo
I play Trance no Dance
Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Brussels, Belgium
The music I get off promo pools often gets forgotten within 4 weeks, the music that I buy gets played for months, also into my sets whenever possible.
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Apr-17-2011 08:11
Stu Cox
Supreme smackaddict
Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Southampton, UK
Re: Re: Everything popular is wrong - Stefan Goldmann
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Originally posted by Beatflux
I do not know how DJs can stay fresh and original when everyone has the same pool of available tracks.
I guess it's because there's so much now that the effort is in filtering through it all and finding the track everyone else has missed, rather than hunting down the track no one else has.
Even the big names don't get as many exclusives as they used to - Pete Tong recently said in an interview that Deadmau5 phoned him up on a Wednesday and said "Here's my new tune, finished it this afternoon, can you play it on your show on Friday?" Pete asked if it was going to be an exclusive and Joel said "Er, no, it's already on Beatport".
But there's enough music around for every DJ to have their own playlists... (those who want to anyway)
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Apr-17-2011 09:20
zodiac9
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Oct 2005
Location: Houston, TX
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Originally posted by clay
lol deadmaus is so cool sometimes lol. released the same night it was finished. that is so funny.
In what world does that happen? I didn't think it was possible to get a release on beatport in less than 2 weeks time.
Well anyway, the article was depressing. I suppose that's an accurate take on the current scene. I guess to "stand out" you have to make the worst, most ridiculous music you can think of, and people will flock to your "new" sound. There's only so much you do to be innovative before it starts to sound like total crap. It's not about the music anymore, anyway.
Originally posted by zodiac9
I guess to "stand out" you have to make the worst, most ridiculous music you can think of, and people will flock to your "new" sound. There's only so much you do to be innovative before it starts to sound like total crap. It's not about the music anymore, anyway.
I think the point you're missing is that there are too many imitators who borrow heavily from icons and trends and those people aren't going to make it. In order to do so, you have to be both original and competent.
But you can always try unbridled incompetence and see how that works out.
I disagree zodiac, i think some stuff that is ''unique'' is actually quite good.
Like this
Sure its not for everyone but its great.
Or, think Aphex Twin he stands out and makes really nice music.
Or, maybe you think that this music is shit. Then, I completely understand your point of view lol
At the same time i kinda agree with you, some ''standout'' stuff is really hipsterish crap
Apr-18-2011 03:16
zodiac9
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Oct 2005
Location: Houston, TX
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Originally posted by EddieZilker
I think the point you're missing is that there are too many imitators who borrow heavily from icons and trends and those people aren't going to make it. In order to do so, you have to be both original and competent.
But you can always try unbridled incompetence and see how that works out.
I was joking a bit. You put it well though, "original and competent." That pretty much sums it up in 2 words.
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Originally posted by mathieu
I disagree zodiac, i think some stuff that is ''unique'' is actually quite good.
Like this
At the risk of sounding old or snobby, it's awful. It sounds like something a newb made with pirated software. It's not musical, not anything palatable anyway. It's terribly repetitious. I've heard rap and hip hop that sounds better.
Really, the first thing I look for in music, is that it has to at least be musical. For instance, I don't like Gorillaz, but they're stuff is very musical. I'm no D&B fan, but at least it's musically palatable.
I think dubstep is awful too, I just don't get it. Seems producers are really stretching it thin to find a new sound, or their own sound. They forget, that sound has to still sound good. It's starting to sound like music is produced with a random number generator, and those numbers are turned into music. The trendy stuff anyways. If people are actually buying and listening to that stuff, what I say isn't going to matter at all.
