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ziptnf
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Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Louisville, KY
The War on Drugs

After reading this article today, it struck me as odd that the United States government will do whatever it can to prevent drugs from being legalized, but won't bat an eye at sending the military to another country for more soldiers and civilians to die.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...DGDL_story.html

Now, this is not to undermine the cartel-related violence in Mexico, that is out of control. Los Zetas are absolutely terrifying, but cutting the problem off at the source might be a better choice. If the United States were to make drugs legal and tax them, that would be a huge blow to the cartel's revenue stream. If they were to retaliate, only then would it be necessary to use force.

Thoughts?


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prolikewhoa
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Re: The War on Drugs

the simple solution is to legalize drugs in the united states. why this is such a taboo idea i don't understand. yes, drugs can be dangerous. yes, there is crime associated with drug use and sale - BUT that crime would diminish greatly with legalization. for one, drugs would no longer be sold to children (of course some kids are still going to find a way, similar to how kids can find ways to get cigarettes and booze... but at least the drug dealer who was peddling coke at the jr. high would be out of business). the other main benefits are the enormous relief of the justice and prison system which are currently so overburdened with nonviolent drug offenses that real criminals are getting out every day to keep prisons from max capacity. that, and the amount of new taxable revenue, combined with the billions we have wasted on the war on drugs, we could be out of the recession in 20 years. i could go on and on.

//edit: pertaining to the article, military intervention without legalization is a horrible idea. you have to cut the source of income for the cartels. if they can't pay twisted fucks to do their dirty work, they WILL lose power.


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ziptnf
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WHAT THA HELL ARE YEW TALKIN ABOUT WOMAN? THIS IS MURIKKKA, THE LAND OF GUNS, FAST FOOD, AND CIGARETTES. FREEDOM HATER!


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prolikewhoa
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ta guele! j'ai partagé un vrai commentaire et toi, tu blague. c'est à n'y rien comprendre!


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Nick just pack up and come to Canada already, FFS. I'm sure Coca Cola can give you a job here if you want.


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Nick just pack up and come to Canada already, FFS. I'm sure Coca Cola can give you a job here if you want.

Would be nice, but Coca Cola Enterprises and The Coca Cola Company split last year so Canada isn't in my domain


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Re: Re: The War on Drugs

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Originally posted by prolikewhoa
the simple solution is to legalize drugs in the united states. why this is such a taboo idea i don't understand. yes, drugs can be dangerous. yes, there is crime associated with drug use and sale - BUT that crime would diminish greatly with legalization. for one, drugs would no longer be sold to children (of course some kids are still going to find a way, similar to how kids can find ways to get cigarettes and booze... but at least the drug dealer who was peddling coke at the jr. high would be out of business). the other main benefits are the enormous relief of the justice and prison system which are currently so overburdened with nonviolent drug offenses that real criminals are getting out every day to keep prisons from max capacity. that, and the amount of new taxable revenue, combined with the billions we have wasted on the war on drugs, we could be out of the recession in 20 years. i could go on and on.

//edit: pertaining to the article, military intervention without legalization is a horrible idea. you have to cut the source of income for the cartels. if they can't pay twisted fucks to do their dirty work, they WILL lose power.


One of the "problems" with legalizing drugs is that you have a lot of people who are employed as a result of the war on drugs. Private prisons, correctional officer unions (CCPOA, for instance), not to mention public servants (e.g. Sheriff Joe Arpaio) whose positions are justified as a result of this "war", all have a stake in making sure drugs are kept illegal.


To the article & your edit: I don't think legalizing drugs is going to make a military intervention, in Mexico, more feasible. Regardless of whether they're legal or not, you will see some incredibly nasty shit that will make atrocities in Afghanistan and Iraq look far less horrific. In a lot of ways, what's happening in Mexico, right now, has already exceeded that threshold.


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ziptnf
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One of the "problems" with legalizing drugs is that you have a lot of people who are employed as a result of the war on drugs. Private prisons, correctional officer unions (CCPOA, for instance), not to mention public servants (e.g. Sheriff Joe Arpaio) whose positions are justified as a result of this "war", all have a stake in making sure drugs are kept illegal.

Right, and all the jobs that are lost can be re-created through means of production facilities, quality control, and retail. Perhaps Sheriff Joe can get a job as a security guard instead of a DEA head-buster.


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i would say it has... the 30+ bodies dumped on the freeway? i thought that kind of shit only happened in movies.


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Right, and all the jobs that are lost can be re-created through means of production facilities, quality control, and retail.


exactly... estimates from 2008 guessed 6 million new jobs could be created from the legalization of drugs.


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