I am just in the process of finishing my first 'track' (I use the term loosely)
There is bound to be plenty wrong with it as I only started 2 months ago but instead of just bumming around making loops and half finished crap wanted to get something done asap even if it is just a noob tune instead of striving to sound like a pro from the off, there is some stuff I want to change that I am not happy with even for that standard and I was going to do most of that before letting anyone hear it but would probably just end up getting sick of it and ditching it all together.

Its pretty basic I ain't tried to do anything clever, (I have barely listened to any EDM for last 4/5 years since quitting dj'ing so its probably very dated sounding and I aint tried to sound like anyone I have just gone with the flow and seen what came out) there is a few basic effects but I haven't learned much on that front yet and not looked into mixing/mastering etc so none of that's been done yet.

its all done in reason on a 7 year old pc and some pc speakers which makes it hard to judge the sound in any real depth but I can tell it needs a fair bit of work all round.

Anyways instead of being a fanny and not putting it up for fear of getting ripped to shreds until it was ''done'' I thought I would just get it up and see if I can get some pointers and see If I am on the right tracks, you have to start somewhere or you will go nowhere.



Edit to add
when I have just listened to it on sc after uploading it on my laptop downstairs on some shitty earphones there seems to be some kind of click in my drum loops and its soudning a bit like being ice picked in the ears which it didn't in reason so not sure if that's the shitty laptop or something I have done wrong when ripping ot from reason

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My first attempt at a track

Hypnotic Dreams - Classic Prog Trance mix
Eternal Sound - Progressive Trance mix
One for the Underground - Dark Progressive mix

Last edited by Greeny1210 on Aug-08-2012 at 21:03

and that place to start is the forum where everyone else seems to post their stuff.


a side note

Don't give a pre-emptive reason to explain why it may suck. All you are doing is taking away any sort of ownership of your work. You should expect to be judged as is in the current state given you were a professional.

Otherwise, you will get , not bad for a noob. And that is not going to help you.

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I din't want to post it in their as I thought that was more for promoting yourself/tracks and I wouldn't say its even close being classed on that level

Take your point about explaining why it may suck though pal, I just thought it only fair to pre warn people who have sensitive ears

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My first attempt at a track

Hypnotic Dreams - Classic Prog Trance mix
Eternal Sound - Progressive Trance mix
One for the Underground - Dark Progressive mix

why ?

when i read it, it reads like an excuse. Take ownership. When you deal with the criticism, you know how long you have been up to it.

A tip in asking for advice. Be specific. Because just saying what do you think, you invite assholes, and hey i've done it, that will say it fucking blows. So be very specific in what you want appraised. Don't ask if it is good. That is about as useful as someone saying it sucks

in fact shitty is about as useful as good. In fact saying something is good is probably the least helpful thing someone can say. At least shitty means you have something to work on if you get the details why.

I've been rather cruel to some people. And it really has to do with the way they ask. And where they ask. I would of posted it in the other forum first. Then if nothing, as a last resort and explain that.

But as it is....

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old stuff from days gone by (2001-2004)
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That sound at :31 (and throughout the track) sounds pretty awkward, lol.
Wouldn't say it sucks, but it sounds weird.

Last edited by fredjan on Aug-01-2012 at 03:58

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney why ? when i read it, it reads like an excuse. Take ownership. When you deal with the criticism, you know how long you have been up to it. A tip in asking for advice. Be specific. Because just saying what do you think, you invite assholes, and hey i've done it, that will say it fucking blows. So be very specific in what you want appraised. Don't ask if it is good. That is about as useful as someone saying it sucks in fact shitty is about as useful as good. In fact saying something is good is probably the least helpful thing someone can say. At least shitty means you have something to work on if you get the details why. I've been rather cruel to some people. And it really has to do with the way they ask. And where they ask. I would of posted it in the other forum first. Then if nothing, as a last resort and explain that. But as it is....

cheers fella appreciate you taking the time to reply and the advice

I guess I was just looking for general feedback on where I am on the right and wrong tracks and see if it matches up with what I am already thinking, also what it sounds like on some proper decent monitors, (ie which sounds are close and which ones need lots of work on the eq/mixing front) I noticed a fair people whacking a load of loops together and calling it a tune but wanted to try and write my own chords/melodies/drum loops etc instead of that.
I know I need to look into synthesis tons more before I can get exactly the sounds I want, for instance I like stuff with a darker edge while still being emotive/melodic but struggled to get any dark edge in this one.

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My first attempt at a track

Hypnotic Dreams - Classic Prog Trance mix
Eternal Sound - Progressive Trance mix
One for the Underground - Dark Progressive mix

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Originally posted by fredjan That sound at :31 (and throughout the track) sounds pretty awkward, lol. Wouldn't say it sucks, but it sounds weird.

Yeah its one of the things I was thinking about changing, I change my mind with it on each listen, kind of stumbled on it when making my drum loop and it seemed to work at first as was just trying to add a bit of life to it. more curious as to if people think the parts of the track work such as melody, what I could improve in general regarding arrangement, if the sounds mix well and what I could look at more closely before I finish it off.

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My first attempt at a track

Hypnotic Dreams - Classic Prog Trance mix
Eternal Sound - Progressive Trance mix
One for the Underground - Dark Progressive mix

production isnt too bad, the percs dont seem to fit the track right, they seem to stick out a bit, not dying about the melody

So youve made that track. Time to start a new one

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Is that your African Grey? Those birds are amazing

Track is alright doesn't have much to say for itself but at least it's not obnoxious, and I do like the little breakdown. I would say stop making music until you get a decent monitoring setup

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Originally posted by meriter Is that your African Grey? Those birds are amazing Track is alright doesn't have much to say for itself but at least it's not obnoxious, and I do like the little breakdown. I would say stop making music until you get a decent monitoring setup

Yeah mate, well was at least, sadly he passed away a couple of weeks ago had him since I was a little un so was/am Gutted, you are right they are utterly amazing so much character (used to dance around to tunes,swear pretend to be a cat..all sorts) I would say the best pet you can ever have, but they are much more than a pet, but yeah it was part of the reason I was determined to get it done, helped take my mind of stuff as well and convey a bit of emotion..hopefully but need to work on that.

thanks for the feedback pal, Not going to stop though as could be a long time till I have an ideal set up as out of work at moment and it keeps me out of trouble, I'll just hook up my old dj monitors in meantime If I can find somewhere to put them.

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Originally posted by evo8 production isnt too bad, the percs dont seem to fit the track right, they seem to stick out a bit, not dying about the melody So youve made that track. Time to start a new one

Thanks for the advice about the percs, time to play around with them a bit

Yep will be doing that asap.

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My first attempt at a track

Hypnotic Dreams - Classic Prog Trance mix
Eternal Sound - Progressive Trance mix
One for the Underground - Dark Progressive mix

My main point is not to get too hung up on this track, just take what uve learned from this track and move on to the next one, you can end up going round and round in circles when the track isnt worth it

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Thanks for the replies so far, decided it was some way off what I wanted so have totally remade the track over the weekend and wrote a different melody which kind of came from nowhere just felt the original was kind of lame after a few more listens and it didn't convey what I wanted at all

Anyway pretty happy with it for a first track, still not finished few things I want to tweek and no mix down/mastering as not learnt that yet (dont even know If i can in just reason?)

Hope someone enjoys it

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My first attempt at a track

Hypnotic Dreams - Classic Prog Trance mix
Eternal Sound - Progressive Trance mix
One for the Underground - Dark Progressive mix