im a dj who mix deep \ tech house and trance and this style is really not into my style..
earlier today i received the vinyl of hybrid [visible noise \ know your enemy], basically i bought it for the visible noise track but i listened to the b side and i heard a pure breakbeat track.. i've never tried to mix this style, and it looks impossible to me cause how u can find the pitch in this track?...i really would like to know if anyone mixing this style and if so, ill be happy knowing how u make it matched Thanks..
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Sep-10-2002 15:23
hey cheggy
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Sydney, Australia
It's easy to mix 4/4 into 3/4. But you need to do it by ear. I don't think a computer will read the beat too well.
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Sep-10-2002 15:57
Spin Doctor
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Registered: Jul 2001
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Mixing break beat is simple. Just go from the first beat of each bar. Start off practicing by mixing a break beat track into a normal tune. Once you’ve got the hang of mixing break beat it’s just as easy to mix as regular tunes.
Sep-10-2002 16:01
El~ZaPo
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Also I think it helps to listen to the hihats instead of the beats when you are mixing 2 breakbeat songs.
when mixing a 3/4 beat, it's always best to use the high end, either the hihat or the snare
there usually is one or the other or both present
this technique works for pretty much any song with a 3/4 beat
such as breaks, jungle, dnb...
anywho, when you learn to transition between 4/4 and 3/4 it makes your sets that much more interesting when you can go from trance and throw down a nice breakbeat
Originally posted by El~ZaPo
Also I think it helps to listen to the hihats instead of the beats when you are mixing 2 breakbeat songs.
Agree w/ u 100%
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Sep-10-2002 23:03
Jah
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i dont get it
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Sep-11-2002 10:06
PatMcGroin
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: here? there?
quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Shockwav
anywho, when you learn to transition between 4/4 and 3/4 it makes your sets that much more interesting when you can go from trance and throw down a nice breakbeat
if i had some turntables and a mixer, that would be all me. i LOVE breakbeats! its the best to dance to in my opinion, and drives me crazy!
Sep-11-2002 10:27
dJohn
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Registered: May 2002
Location: 619
I have that vinyl. It's not that hard to mix. Use the same fundamentals you use for conventional 4/4 mixing...breakbeats, in a sense are 4/4 as well, but they have a 1/2 beat delay and 1/2 beat 'catchup' in their bar.
If 4/4 were like this..
1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2.....
Break beats would be this....
1-2--12-1-2--12-1-2...
You need to speed up the breakbeat track so that half delay overlaps and matches the 1-2 interval with the 4/4 track.
Really hard to explain. Trust me, it's not that hard...just gotta train your ears to match the high hats and beats.
You gotta keep in mind that 3/4 tracks tend to have a considerably lower BPM most likely than the rest of your 4/4 tracks...
Good vinyl BTW
Sep-11-2002 17:44
patticus
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: vancouver, bc
simply put, just practice with it. i spin 50% breaks now.. it comes easily.
and dont listen to this '3/4 4/4' crap
all dance music is 4/4 (except for the waltz, etc.) .. just dont let that confuse you.
it'll come sooner than you think.
DnB is what's a bit more difficult to mix...
if you're not sure which snare you should be listening for (sometimes its tricky, like say with ragga jungle or something), then just start tapping your foot to the beat or nod your head
and whoever said that broken up 4/4 songs (breaks, d'n'b, etc.) are considerably slower are wrong
im not sure about breaks, though im pretty certain that they are about the same as most trance (i.e. 130 - 140 bpm)
as for d'n'b, its around 180bpm
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Sep-12-2002 21:52
fieroavian
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Registered: Jun 2002
Location: Netherworld
i'm trying to learn too. mixing breakbeat seamlessly with melodic/psychedelic trance is my ultimate goal. go listen to Lee Burridge and Hybrid's sets, they're the masters in mixing progressive with breakbeat. you'll learn something from them.