Another teaser from NI. What could it be? The grid looks like Battery & Maschine. Hmmm Could it be Battery 4? Or maybe some new hardware or Maschine software?

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I'm thinking (hoping) that it's Battery 4. Whatever it is, it seems to have an Ableton Live vibe to it....maybe??? Awwww...hell, I don't know.

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It has to be battery 4, but by the looks of the color coded cells, it also look very much like the Maschine Software sequencer.

If so, Battery 4 is going to be my first purchase of 2013. Battery 3 has been my go to for over 5 years and I can't wait for an update.

On the topic of Maschine, I have to say I am pretty damn impressed.

A friend got one a few months ago - aside from playing Ukulele (damn well) and abit of keys and guitar, he's a real noob, and this was his first foray in computer based music production.

His scratch tracks (about 20 of them) were made entirely with Maschine stock sounds and bad PC speakers but they are borderline release ready and better than 99% of the deep house I hear. The thing is actually fun to play as well.

I just caught the hint: "super CHARGE your beat".

Yup, it's got to be Battery 4. I wonder if it will integrate seamlessly with my Maschine controller. That would be killer.

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battery 4 would be nice, ive tried other drum thingys but i guess ive just been using it too long to change......

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I'm wondering why they'd create Battery 4 if they're trying to sell Maschine's?

On the other hand, Komplete 9 will need some killer new content to make it worthwhile for anybody to upgrade.

Battery 4 with a grid view like Geist/Maschine would definitely be killer content.

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And that's todays biggest pitfall, all template house sounds the same
The construction kit approach of sample banks with artist engineered midi patterns makes every one a top producer, same sylenth patches on top with youtube "how to sound like" tutorial midi patterns and there is the next "killer track"

Producing moved from actually composing and writing with instruments to puzzling, mixing and matching with terrabyte sized libraries, YT tutorials and construction kits. Nothing in this category sounds authentic anymore, every song seems just another compilation of the same content.
It started with minimal techno songs 99% being ableton made, since machine you've got all the machine beats appearing everywhere too. It's bad if you can start to deduct complete genres back to a single DAW or poduction tool.

Ofcourse one can do their own stuff with them too, but the Ableton and Machine content sounds so good that that no longer makes sense if you want to sound like that. Even if one did produce themslves, the avg listener wouldn't notice.
Supercharge OUR BEATS would probably be a more accurate tagline...

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Originally posted by DJ RANN It has to be battery 4, but by the looks of the color coded cells, it also look very much like the Maschine Software sequencer. If so, Battery 4 is going to be my first purchase of 2013. Battery 3 has been my go to for over 5 years and I can't wait for an update. On the topic of Maschine, I have to say I am pretty damn impressed. A friend got one a few months ago - aside from playing Ukulele (damn well) and abit of keys and guitar, he's a real noob, and this was his first foray in computer based music production. His scratch tracks (about 20 of them) were made entirely with Maschine stock sounds and bad PC speakers but they are borderline release ready and better than 99% of the deep house I hear. The thing is actually fun to play as well.

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Last edited by Raphie on Mar-06-2013 at 12:29

making dance is more like micro djing. The concept of creating a work that is cohesive ie there are small building blocks which are expanded to account for the entire work is something that is lost. Granted Adorno said this about pop music a century ago and in a way he was right. So much music is just track A but change sound b to sound c.

THere is also this new sort of attitude that working fast is better which I can understand from a commercial aspect but it isn't a virtue. I see nothing wrong with spending lots of time on something.

I don't see the point in hurrying up to finish something that won't sell anyways. Why not do something that you put effort into it if you aren't on a deadline.

I've thought about this as the formal training i had really showed you how works were created from very small fragments that were expanded for an hour. Every note had a reason for being there and nothing was added for the sake of addition, Taking away note or adding a note would ruin the balance. Trying to apply this concept is kind impossible when dance music has a predetermined role. The fact that some things are automatic, need a kick, sort of makes creation not really that creative. I guess it is the creativity within the narrow scope that shows the shitty artists from the good ones.

I find complextro, at least the stuff that is made now is the worst example. Sounds that have no reason for being there other than some form of producer ADD. Some of it is just awful. Most genres seem to end up like this. Just a bunch of cliches. I guess to be considered a genre makes it automatically a cliche.

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100% aligned here.
So here is me, I now make my tracks only with analog sources, sounding different
Started to sequence with Genome on iPad, got an Innerclock for ultratight timing nd have a Cirklon in backorder.

It's a very strong drive to get away from everything that the current ITB "me too" culture stands for. I don't make necessary better music, But i really start to resend the template house sound. Craving to be authentic, pure, sample free. Still making mediocre tunes to many, but there being recognized as my sound and a few people even really like what i'm doing (go wonder!!!)

Modern producing has become a rat race, where the real heroes are the sounddesigners and library composers. All the producah are just "drag & drop" wannabees, trying to be cool with other peoples hard work.

The sound designers of now, were the artists of 2 decades ago
The producah's are the modern (micro) DJ and on he very bottom of that food chain you have the (macro) DJ's who now also are expected to adopt Ableton, Machine and traktor

Dance industry has become the ecosystem around libraries and construction kits, being authentic has become a scarse quality
The real new skill is, finding the next "nu sound" in your library and push out the next generic track that meets all the stylistic ear candy that the audience expects next weekend.

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Originally posted by Raphie Modern producing has become a rat race, where the real heroes are the sounddesigners and library composers. All the producah are just "drag & drop" wannabees, trying to be cool with other peoples hard work. The sound designers of now, were the artists of 2 decades ago The producah's are the modern (micro) DJ and on he very bottom of that food chain you have the (macro) DJ's who now also are expected to adopt Ableton, Machine and traktor Dance industry has become the ecosystem around libraries and construction kits, being authentic has become a scarse quality The real new skill is, finding the next "nu sound" in your library and push out the next generic track that meets all the stylistic ear candy that the audience expects next weekend.

Same with a lot of the film and TV composers.

Buy Damage, buy Albion, buy CS2 and bam. I'm a composah!

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Yeah, did see a demo and fuck, if you can play a chord and push a mod wheel, you can score any HBO suspense TV show......

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Originally posted by tehlord Same with a lot of the film and TV composers. Buy Damage, buy Albion, buy CS2 and bam. I'm a composah!

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