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Sunseeker208
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Registered: Aug 2013
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Cut length (phrase) of track ?

Hi guys,

For long time ago, I tried to find a method that can reduce number of phrases in a track in the smoothest way , but I still can't find it. For example a track contain 28 phrase (~7 min) to become a new track 20 phrase (~5 min). And it should be smooth so that audience can not realize the joint position.

Would you guys give me any suggestion?

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DJ RANN
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Location: Hollywood....

There's no easy way.

The way I've done it in the past, is to make radio edits but you have to look at the track on a macro level.

This means looking at the sections and numbers of bars and reducing them in proportion. So if the intro is 16 bars, then you cut it down to 8. But then you'll need to cut the other sections within that so it's not as easy as just cutting the intro in half as you may have things like ascending pads or progressively layered elements that will no longer make sense in comparison to the other sections.

In other words you may have to split those 16 bars in to 8 sections, then cut each of those in half, to make a shorter progression that is only 8 bars long.

Even then, the progression may not work depending on the content. I've done it a few times with tracks that were both too long and too short and got generally good results but it's a much more complex task that you first think and requires deal of understanding in song structure to not make it sounds crap or like an obvious edit.

from a technical standpoint, the main thing is that your cuts HAVE to be sample accurate so you're cutting exactly where each bar or beat begins/ends. You get that wrong and the track won't hold BPM.

Good luck!

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You can re-edit tracks using the most basic of music editing software and splicing waveforms like they once would tape, but there's no golden rule. Sparse tracks and sparse sections of tracks are much easier to edit smoothly, but each track is individual and needs to be spliced in its own way to sound good. I re-edit quite a lot of tracks in my mixes in this way.


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