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Re: Re: Is Trance Hiding In Other Genres Nowadays?
| quote: | Originally posted by sunspeeder
If one defines the music they listen to solely by purpose, or what the music is used for, virtually any genre can be Trance Music. |
Well, I always preferred looking at it in this way, but with such logic basically everything ambient becomes trance, so I backed off a bit, but at the same time I can't deny some ambient tracks remind me more of trance than others. And I think chord progressions come into play here. I mean, it's easier to relate more mystical melodies with trance rather than something ala super mario. No matter how much reverb or delay you put, it is still the super mario theme.
But that Apparat track isn't simply ambient. It got drums and a sense of direction which sets it apart from your usual chill out//new age track. It is far and yet close to trance.
| quote: | Originally posted by pozz
The collection of tendencies trance showed definitely have their place in other areas of music. Sometimes their convergence produces stuff like that deadly Apparat track. This is why multi-genre mixes can be done, no?
Back when PVD started mixing the differences in what was being produced weren't perceived as much. The more you got into a specific sound, the more of it got into your sets. 20-30 years down the line, after so much has been produced in specific streams and aligned to specific genres, we can hear the tendencies towards house, techno, trance show up in that music even older than that. And I think the same holds holds for what we listen to now. The compositional techniques since then have remained largely the same, so the same patterns are sure to recur. Having something of a DJ's ear is pretty normal for us -- grouping tracks based on sound -- so there's no reason why composition wouldn't work the same way as listening, and produce the convergences you picked up on.
Genres are pretty flimsy anyway. I always found trancey stuff in ambient music. This is the best example, starting just before 7min and going until the end, but it's not the original track (the original is 14 gorgeous minutes long):
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This piece is a great example of what I mentioned above. Certain tracks, especially for their chords, are much more suitable to be perceived as entrancing than others. Apparently nothing exceptional in terms of structure, your typical ambient crescendo, evolving, rising track, but that melodical structure is what elicits a relation to trance.
Probably this is very personal, subjective, and others don't see it this way, but for me trance has to be mystical, obscure, dark. And I can't find this in the current palette of the genre, that's why I try to find it elsewhere.
Like here.
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