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Kthought
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Joshua Tree
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I just submitted to a label that uses this uploader, and using some deductive logic, congrats are in order to the TA's responsible. Damn that's heartwarming to see.
And yeah i worked with Wiley at Olympik, that was fun and organic. still have the dudes number.
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Jan-27-2015 00:35
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Storyteller
Supreme tracneaddict

Registered: Feb 2005
Location: The Netherlands
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| quote: | Originally posted by Raphie
So after all these years all you got us is a new soundcloud group? (For now) 
I mean Richard can upload to SC himself and enable download.
What's the "loving music" advantage? Not sure on your USP's yet, elaborate? |
That is an oversimplification. Loving Music is about experimenting with various business models. Testing theory and see how it holds up in reality. On paper free downloads should expand your reach by a tenfold over time. As such, the current main USP is we give artists royalties for free downloads. 200% of what the Dutch copyright society would pay out to artists as well as a fair percentage on performed sales. The aim has always been to make music available for free, legally, or as legally as possible.
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There's several ways to give away music:
White hat - legal
- Costs ±500 Euro annually per country you're active in, to be paid to copyright societies The aim for Loving Music is to be active worldwide, otherwise what's the use of the internet? Cost: 100.000 Euro per year. These are just small user licenses including several 1000s of downloads and several 10.000s of streams, per country.
Grey hat
- Leveraging Soundcloud for the free downloads, transferring requirement of royalty payments to another business entity (Soundcloud). Cost: 108 Euro per year. Not ideal, but a legal loophole.
- Paying a 300 to 600 Euro fee to the Dutch copyright society and report all streams/downloads as if they occurred in Holland, thus making sure artists get paid. Technically only legal when music is consumed in The Netherlands.
Black hat
Just do everything you like until you get caught and then pay the price.
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As you can see there are little other options than going through Soundcloud. Copyright law is too blame. It's for the same reasons Spotify and Netflix are expanding on a per country basis, although their cases are exponentially more complex due to the fact that they have to deal with rightsholders whereas Loving Music is its own rightsholder.
Also I prefer not to deal with any copyright societies as their system isn't working as it should. Artificial entities abusing their monopoly within their territory claiming to be transparent while requiring business entities to sign a non-disclosure agreement. Not capable of securing pan-European agreements which benefit business, consumers and artists. They represent the old-boys network that doesn't understand internet and don't recognize business opportunities when they're right in front of them. If anything they actively work against improved copyright legislation in favor of self-preservation (as it would require them to start competing each other otherwise). They delay or obstruct innovation and new business. In particular, the British PRS is a good example of this.
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Last edited by Storyteller on Jan-27-2015 at 07:01
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Jan-27-2015 06:44
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Storyteller
Supreme tracneaddict

Registered: Feb 2005
Location: The Netherlands
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Jan-27-2015 07:02
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Storyteller
Supreme tracneaddict

Registered: Feb 2005
Location: The Netherlands
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Jan-27-2015 07:39
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Storyteller
Supreme tracneaddict

Registered: Feb 2005
Location: The Netherlands
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Jan-27-2015 08:21
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