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Sean Walsh
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Downtown Vancouver
Backwards vocals ala James Holden - Nothing (Mix 2)

Anyone want to take a guess as to what James Holden did in the 93 returning mix of nothing to reverse the vocals but keep the melody of the song the same?

Old Post Dec-17-2002 08:22  Canada
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Mr.Mystery
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I don't think they are reversed - just cut up and shuffled around...


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Fatboy
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I don't know excactly what he does, but it sounds fucking amazing. He definitely cuts it up with something, lots of delay, and some strange effects on top perhaps.


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maybe he just hit the random knob hehe
Dunno m8 it sounds great though


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Re: Backwards vocals ala James Holden - Nothing (Mix 2)

quote:
Originally posted by dj-sean
Anyone want to take a guess as to what James Holden did in the 93 returning mix of nothing to reverse the vocals but keep the melody of the song the same?


i belive it is made with logic or cubase, the idea is to reverse the whole vocal, or cutting the vocals by measures (quarters, halves, etc...) and then u move them like, when u have the words "the sound" in singing, u play with it (but sticking to the original sound of the words...), and then u can make it go like "eht nousd", and then if u want to create a james holden touch u change the velocity of some verbs according to the beats...

"eht noust"


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Mr.Mystery
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Re: Re: Backwards vocals ala James Holden - Nothing (Mix 2)

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i belive it is made with logic or cubase, the idea is to reverse the whole vocal, or cutting the vocals by measures (quarters, halves, etc...) and then u move them like, when u have the words "the sound" in singing, u play with it (but sticking to the original sound of the words...), and then u can make it go like "eht nousd", and then if u want to create a james holden touch u change the velocity of some verbs according to the beats...

"eht noust"


Needless to say that that's *ahem* quite a long and slow process...


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Vortex_SA
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Re: Re: Re: Backwards vocals ala James Holden - Nothing (Mix 2)

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Needless to say that that's *ahem* quite a long and slow process...


wellllllllllllll thats the point, making a good fx takes time...


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fr0st
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Registered: Apr 2002
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James holden is a master and to me it sounds like a stutter edit the same type of edits bt uses and a lot of nuskool breaks do it to vocals.

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Re: Re: Backwards vocals ala James Holden - Nothing (Mix 2)

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i belive it is made with logic or cubase


hahaha! try buzz

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Vortex_SA
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Re: Re: Re: Backwards vocals ala James Holden - Nothing (Mix 2)

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hahaha! try buzz

nah, dont think so, its really hard doing it with buzz, but maybe he did...


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quddha
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Toronto, Ontario

James holden is a buzz-master. There's tons of machines, i'm sure one of them would do the trick. I'm not familiar with the song myself, so I couldn't tell you how. I'd think it be easier to do it in buzz than in logic or cubase? :P logic/cubase are just sequencers...


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Sean Walsh
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There's certainly no one machine in buzz that could do it, he obviously chopped the vocals in an external audio editing program. Once he put them together the way he did though, the effects on them were all done in buzz, or at least that's how it sounds, hehe.

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