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As opposed to a CD single a CD Maxi will have many (if not all) mixes of a track on it ... anything upto 9 tracks sometimes!

Stuff like this isn't usually found in the UK as there are limits on the lengths of CD that are eligible for the charts

CDS = CD single, max 3 tracks or about 20 mins
CDM = CD maxi, no exact limits
CD = CD album

UK CD singles usually are max of 3 tracks or about 20 mins. The limit was 40 mins until the "CIN (The Chart Information Network) ppl" changed it to 20 mins in 1998. I hate the CIN cd length rule, it's just a way to get more money to the record companies by making ppl buy at least 2 singles instead of 1. Luckily most other countries don't have these limitations, except Germany has a restriction for the length of limited edition bonus CDs packed with an CD album to about 23 minutes. Remember Blank & Jones - Nightclubbing 2CD!

Usual length of a CDM is around 35 mins or 4-5 mixes, but i have seen some US CD maxis including 14 mixes, length over 75 mins!!!! That sure is worth the money, not like the UK singles with 1 radio edit and 2 mixes, which most likely both are also slightly edited.

Some UK record companies have also been against the rule. This is what reads in the back cover of Humate - 3.1 (7 mixes / over 58 mins) CDM on Platipus Records in 1998 : "The Chart Information Network (C.I.N) have changed the rules so that 'You' the Punter, can no longer purchase a single with more than 3 mixes on it. That's why we have made this CD single with 7 mixes on it, the way it should be - 'Value for your money'. For anyone from C.I.N. that reads this, f**k your rules!"

More detailed info about the CIN rules HERE.

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Originally posted by GrimReaper CDS = CD single, max 3 tracks or about 20 mins CDM = CD maxi, no exact limits CD = CD album UK CD singles usually are max of 3 tracks or about 20 mins. The limit was 40 mins until the "CIN (The Chart Information Network) ppl" changed it to 20 mins in 1998. I hate the CIN cd length rule, it's just a way to get more money to the record companies by making ppl buy at least 2 singles instead of 1. Luckily most other countries don't have these limitations, except Germany has a restriction for the length of limited edition bonus CDs packed with an CD album to about 23 minutes. Remember Blank & Jones - Nightclubbing 2CD! Usual length of a CDM is around 35 mins or 4-5 mixes, but i have seen some US CD maxis including 14 mixes, length over 75 mins!!!! That sure is worth the money, not like the UK singles with 1 radio edit and 2 mixes, which most likely both are also slightly edited. Some UK record companies have also been against the rule. This is what reads in the back cover of Humate - 3.1 (7 mixes / over 58 mins) CDM on Platipus Records in 1998 : "The Chart Information Network (C.I.N) have changed the rules so that 'You' the Punter, can no longer purchase a single with more than 3 mixes on it. That's why we have made this CD single with 7 mixes on it, the way it should be - 'Value for your money'. For anyone from C.I.N. that reads this, f**k your rules!" More detailed info about the CIN rules HERE.

/Me rememebers an old hard house single from 1994 with about 9 mixes on the cd.

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dude that's fuck'n crap... =oP i'm sorry

lol

all of the singles i have have almost every remix of the song on em... maybe 1 or 2 other songs... and remixes of those songs...

like...

nine inch nails - head like a hole (10 songs... 70+ minutes)
filter - take a picture (7 remixes +2 music vids)
static-x - push it (5 songs - 2 remixes of push it + 2 music vids)
velvet acid christ - decypher (5 remixes + 2 remixes of fun with drugs)
nine inch nails - the perfect drug (5 remixes... 60 minutes)
new order - crystal (7 remixes i think... + 1 other song from their newer cd... good cd to get... gots digweeds mix ov it =oP )

but yah... so on n so fourth... =oP
and you can't always blame the record companys... like this guy i looked up to (for quite some time...) bryan... (VAC) was going to put out a maxi-cd with remixes, b-sides and a couple music vids... but decided to put out 2 singles with 1 b-side on each... sort of like demos... cause there are going to be no remixes... and then just put out a remix cd in the future... but he's doing this because HE wants more money... not because the record companys want more money...

but the idea of putting movies on singles is a good thing... at least i think so... because mtv here is crap... and if you don't have the extra $40 a month to pay for added channels so you get mtv 2 er mtv 3 er woteva... you never get to see the vids (unless you dl em... but i've got a 56k... and it takes fuck'n forever)

^^^reason being why i will NEVER EVER EVER EVER charge $$ for one of my cds... if you can't dl it you can send me a letter and i'll send you a cd back... if you get signed... or if you start to get known... money becomes everything... after time... you just make what sounds cool and not what you want comming out of your mind... blah...

THE FIRST STEP TO SELLING OUT IS GETTING KNOWN... fuck record companys... fuck their rules... and fuck the artists who support everything a record company wants...

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Top 10 Tracks ATM;
Fractured - Between The Lines
Headscan - Lolife
Aesthetic Perfection - Pale
Fractured - Try To Forget
Antichristus - James Addiction (Remix)
Distimia - Vile
Re-Agent - Brain Death (Fractured Remix)
PreEmptive Strike 0.1 - Symbiosis Denied
Lastboss - Parralax Scrolling
Grendel - Judged Ones (Fractured Remix)

what about the yet another day CDM i think there was a lot of mixes on that one

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Originally posted by dj_unsorted dude that's fuck'n crap... =oP i'm sorry lol all of the singles i have have almost every remix of the song on em... maybe 1 or 2 other songs... and remixes of those songs...

Yeah, most of my singles are like that too.. but they are imports, promo cds or they just haven't obeyd the CIN rule.. about 99% of the UK record companies do obey it or at least try.. and until 1998 the limit was 40 mins if only remixes of the song, 20-25 or up to 4 different songs (incl. b-sides) involved. That's why for example "The Orb" released a single "Blue Room" which was exactly 39:59 long. Since Spring 2001 it seems to be allowed to include more than 3 versions of the featured track if the 20 minute limit is not reached.

Don't blame me being wrong, there are always exceptions!

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Originally posted by dj_unsorted if you get signed... or if you start to get known... money becomes everything... after time... you just make what sounds cool and not what you want comming out of your mind... blah... THE FIRST STEP TO SELLING OUT IS GETTING KNOWN... fuck record companys... fuck their rules... and fuck the artists who support everything a record company wants...

i so want to put this in a different way.. but im unable to think of a nicer way to write it..

you're talking out your ass.

so us musicians arnt allowed to get payed for our jobs..? open your eyes. if signed artists didnt get payed then they would all starve and die.. either that or be working a normal 9-5 job not having time to make the music you like. yes, there are certain artists who have 'sold out' but getting known is CERTAINLY not the first step to selling out. getting known is what we all want to do so that ppl will actually notice our records in the shop and buy them. in reply to your little bit that sez "you just make what sounds cool, not whats coming out ur mind".. well, hopefully what comes out of our minds is also what sounds cool. if it didnt sound good then we would have a pretty shit genre.

if you want to say 'fuck record companies' then trance is doomed. there would be no music released without them.

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maxi CD is basically the equivalent of a 12" single (but on CD format, of course : )).

personally, i don't differentiate a CD single from a CD maxi. i just call them all CD5s (for 5 inch CD single). the term "maxi" was given to denote a 12" single as opposed to a 7" single, so to me, all CD singles of today are maxis since they are 5" and not 3".

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Originally posted by obs maxi CD is basically the equivalent of a 12" single (but on CD format, of course : )). personally, i don't differentiate a CD single from a CD maxi. i just call them all CD5s (for 5 inch CD single). the term "maxi" was given to denote a 12" single as opposed to a 7" single, so to me, all CD singles of today are maxis since they are 5" and not 3".

thats shit, sorry.

Example, theres 2 cds on the armind label for sound of goodbye. the single contains 2 edits and the maxi contains all the original mixes.

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waarom should there be arestriction to the length of a bonus cd :~

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quality trance is released all the time without record companys...

mp3.com
soundclick.com

and the hundreds of other mp3 services...

i'm not saying that you shouldn't be payed for it... if ya wanna make money... fine... but money's evil... it destroys lives... familys... citys... countrys...

i make music... i mix... but everything i give to people is free... music should be shared... not bought n sold like drugs... if someone doesn't have the $20 to buy your cd... does that mean that they shouldn't be able to experience something they very well might love... because they're broke... or because they have to choose each month between food and heat... it's rediculous... the internet has made it possible for you to get your shit out AROUND THE WORLD. if your too lazy to promote it... or just don't fucking care if anyone hears it... fine... post it... leave it... but the idea of making hundreds, thousands, millions of dollars off of your music is what is ruining music... people make what they think will sell... who cares if it's cool... just make what you wanna fucking make... if people like it... fine... if they don't... fine... THAT is what is ruining music... people makeing what they think will sell... i've always thought of electronic music as kind of special... because it can convay feelings without words... you can make a song to get something out and share it with someone who doesn't speak your fucking language... and they can understand your feelings... before it was 'cool' to be a little fucking raver people could do this... then it started to get more known... people got into djing... got into production... and now it's all going to hell... people are ripping off other patterns... ripping off synth lines... bass lines... they arn't making the music with any feeling anymore... now it's just... 'oh this'll be cool... i'll make money' fuck that...

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Top 10 Tracks ATM;
Fractured - Between The Lines
Headscan - Lolife
Aesthetic Perfection - Pale
Fractured - Try To Forget
Antichristus - James Addiction (Remix)
Distimia - Vile
Re-Agent - Brain Death (Fractured Remix)
PreEmptive Strike 0.1 - Symbiosis Denied
Lastboss - Parralax Scrolling
Grendel - Judged Ones (Fractured Remix)