Theoretical question. If someone (lets say a family member) asks you for help with something and you tell them that the way they are doing it wont work and that theyll make a huge mess of things and suggest another way to solve the problem but they stubbornly refuse to listen and say that they changed their minds that you should go away and that they dont need your help after all and can manage themselves, then after a while they call you back, say that it didnt work and that they made a gigantic mess of it and if you could please come and help clean up the mess, is one still obliged to go and help out or is the "i told you so, clean up your own god damned mess" too rude a thing to say at this point?

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Originally posted by Moongoose Theoretical question. If someone (lets say a family member) asks you for help with something and you tell them that the way they are doing it wont work and that theyll make a huge mess of things and suggest another way to solve the problem but they stubbornly refuse to listen and say that they changed their minds that you should go away and that they dont need your help after all and can manage themselves, then after a while they call you back, say that it didnt work and that they made a gigantic mess of it and if you could please come and help clean up the mess, is one still obliged to go and help out or is the "i told you so, clean up your own god damned mess" too rude a thing to say at this point?

If there's one thing I learned from the story of The Little Red Hen, it's that you definitely tell people to go fuck themselves when they deserve it.

walking to work this morning and this cheeky ~7yo girl looks at me and says "you shouldn't smoke". i replied "you shouldn't talk to strangers" as i walked by.

pkc 1
defenceless young child 0

to quote maddox, i am better than your kids.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby We have a company, and we have a distribution contract for the software

So basically other people are benefiting from your work but you are not. Sounds like you're getting screwed and love it.
Do whatever you like, but when even Lira (!) tells you to get a proper job something must be wrong.


Oh, and @ smokers: stop defending your disgusting habit and quit already.

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Originally posted by Meat187 So basically other people are benefiting from your work but you are not. Sounds like you're getting screwed and love it. Do whatever you like, but when even Lira (!) tells you to get a proper job something must be wrong. Oh, and @ smokers: stop defending your disgusting habit and quit already.

No, they make no money till we make money, and they own nothing of ours till they reach a certain dollar amount in sales and royalties. They haven't made money off our work yet because we haven't.

I know they haven't made money. But they got a lot of work done for which they normally would have needed to invest money. Great for them, but not for you.
If I had a business idea I'd love to find some suckers who do all the start-up work for free.
Do you really need capitalism lessons from a German? DO NOT WORK FOR FREE!

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Originally posted by Meat187 I know they haven't made money. But they got a lot of work done for which they normally would have needed to invest money. Great for them, but not for you. If I had a business idea I'd love to find some suckers who do all the start-up work for free. Do you really need capitalism lessons from a German? DO NOT WORK FOR FREE!

We were already developing this before we signed up with them. I'd still be doing the work for free, but down a distributor (though we had other offers at the time, including some fairly big name defense contractors).

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Originally posted by Moongoose Theoretical question. If someone (lets say a family member) asks you for help with something and you tell them that the way they are doing it wont work and that theyll make a huge mess of things and suggest another way to solve the problem but they stubbornly refuse to listen and say that they changed their minds that you should go away and that they dont need your help after all and can manage themselves, then after a while they call you back, say that it didnt work and that they made a gigantic mess of it and if you could please come and help clean up the mess, is one still obliged to go and help out or is the "i told you so, clean up your own god damned mess" too rude a thing to say at this point?

Tell them they should have seen it coming, but help them anyway if it's a family member or a friend. People should be given the chance to screw up every now and then, specially if it was worth the try.

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Originally posted by Meat187 Do whatever you like, but when even Lira (!) tells you to get a proper job something must be wrong.

Holy shit its June... I don't even remember the first two months of the year, and the 3 months after that have just fucking flown by.

Fastest year evar.

time flies when you don't have a job? no way!

Another rant...


ever read an argument so fundamentally stupid and illogical that when you try to take it on with logic, logic itself fails you and runs away to hide in a safe place so that it wont be forced to go anywhere near that clusterfuck of fallacious arguments and migraine inducing conclusions.

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