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SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by montana
I'm writing one of his versions as I believe it was actually his remix that used to be knocking about on white label, cained heavy by Oakey and was attributed to Quivver.


Sorry Uncle Montana, but I ain't buying that for one second. If you're referring to the remix that's on Another World, that's Quivver all day long. The production has his fingerprints all over it.


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PQM did a bootleg remix in 1995 that was played out a lot by Junior Vasquez and that crowd and which spawned further bootlegs. I think it was intended to be released on Perfecto, but Led Zeppelin wouldn't allow it. Here it is:



He eventually released a very different but legal version in 2006.

The one Oakenfold played on Another World is indeed by Quivver. That should be obvious in the first 30 seconds. I have no idea how the rumour developed that it was also from PQM.


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Sorry Uncle Montana, but I ain't buying that for one second. If you're referring to the remix that's on Another World, that's Quivver all day long. The production has his fingerprints all over it.


GrimReaper was the one that told me that PQM actually did the one on Another World and the one that Oakey played. Reason I trust/trusted his words is GrimReaper barely used to come false information so I went by what he told me.

Grimreaper was a great source of it as he was a collector and very knowledgeable. Which was a big contrast to another person I also used to talk a fair bit on MSN. TTA used to talk out of his ass countless times and I can't even believe that I used to trust what he said back in the day.


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quote:
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GrimReaper was the one that told me that PQM actually did the one on Another World and the one that Oakey played. Reason I trust/trusted his words is GrimReaper barely used to come false information so I went by what he told me.

Grimreaper was a great source of it as he was a collector and very knowledgeable. Which was a big contrast to another person I also used to talk a fair bit on MSN. TTA used to talk out of his ass countless times and I can't even believe that I used to trust what he said back in the day.


I don't think anyone would doubt that Jyri knows/knew what he was talking about, but it's pretty clear in this case that he made a mistake if he attributed the Another World remix to PQM rather than Quivver.

Just listen to the first 30 seconds vs the first 30 seconds of any other Quivver or PQM track of the same era. It's pretty clear its Quivver. It screams Quivver. Not to mention how different it is to PQM's self-admitted remix several years prior.


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Apologies for momentarily transforming this into the Babe I'm Gonna Leave You thread, but I've only got one more thing to say on this.

quote:
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GrimReaper was the one that told me that PQM actually did the one on Another World and the one that Oakey played. Reason I trust/trusted his words is GrimReaper barely used to come false information so I went by what he told me.


Yeah I remember GrimReaper well, and he knew his stuff. He was wrong about this one though. As Lews says, you only have to compare that mix to any Quivver production from that era to know it's him. He had an extremely distinctive production style in the mid-90s that's all over that remix.

Par exemple:



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Anyone knows the track at 1 hour 40 min into the mix? It's Matthias Zimmermann mixing.

A really good trancey vibe. I have no way to identify it. It reminds me a bit of some of PQMs early stuff.

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Energetic stuff here by Alexander Church and James Welsh:


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