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Midlothian
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Originally posted by Lira
A voiceless interdental wouldn't be impossible, but it would somewhat unusual in this context. I'd have expected an interdental fricative to arise from a broader case of lenition, not just before a high vowel. That's what happened in English and in European Spanish (where it evolved from a voiceless affricate). Also, interdentals aren't really that common in Austronesian languages (Yapese and Drehu being exceptions)... or anywhere, really.

Because it's so very specific to one restricted environment, it's more likely the result of palatalisation as it's always followed by /i/ in the North. If you compare to neighbouring languages, the pronunciation of /ti/ as [tsi] or [t͡ɕi] is much more widespread, being a more likely path to [si]. In Southern Kiribati it's spread to both high vowels, so /tu/ is pronounced [su] too.

As for whether it happens in the beginning of words, yes, apparently.

Wait, are you a linguistics student/researcher/professor?


I thought of ɕi/ši but failed to consider deaffrication. No I happen to know some languages professionally (mostly BCE) but no formal Linguistics background.


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Same. Just got 2 months of rain in 2 days

Yeah, I think it wouldn't be an exaggeration to say it was close to that here too. Not complaining or anything, our hydroelectric power plants were in a very dire situation... so, phew, it was close
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I thought of ɕi/ši but failed to consider deaffrication. No I happen to know some languages professionally (mostly BCE) but no formal Linguistics background.

Well, you do have a knack for historical linguistics. I can honestly say that proposing an intermediate stage of a sound stage like that is much better than what most classmates did when I was in graduate school

(not to underestimate my colleagues or anything, it's just that sound changes were not exactly popular around here)


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are we all a bunch of fucking autists that just stick around posting shit now?


No. Speak for yourself mister


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