quote: | Originally posted by identity7
Your post would make sense if you didn't forget about Euro-pop/Euro-dance which "developed" from stuff like Modern Talking, Captain Jack, Sequential One, Mr. President, Two Unlimited before trance even became known and a common word to describe the undeground genre.
Case in point:
Trance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Uz1J4BpXb8
Euro-dance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA39yqwnX98
"uplifting trance": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MZmPoPvJYE&feature=fvst
Now tell me which of those three have the most in common?
Just because they have 4/4 beat and are electronic doesn't make them the same.
So your post makes no sense. And what does rock which was always mainstream and followed formulas for crowds have to do with anything? |
Yes, thats what im saying in my post, look carefully, that "euroish" stuff and "brit-prog" influenced the development of uplifting trance. What the f*ck don't you agree with? Thats what happens in music all the time, there can substantial inter- (and intra-) genre influences and cross-fertilizations. I mentioned rock music-a subject which you are clearly ignorant and don't have a clue about (and it is my humble opinion that if you are clearly ignorant in one subject then it is good to NOT be as opiniated because the only thing you show is your massive stupidity)-because it is now a huge genre with lots of sub-genres just to show that things like that happen all the time in music IN GENERAL not just trance. People invent names for genres but genres are not rigid, they change all he time. They are not objective descriptions of truth. There is no
objective "trance-meter" that demonstrates the amount of objective "tranceness" in a tune, trance is only what people say to be and so uplifting trance happens to be a sub-genre of trance. "Trance" is just a "name" invented in germany for a german type of techno and even back then there were substantial variations under that name. Personally i never felt "entranced" by that music since even back then it wasn't very repeatetive e.g. the stuff by Resistance D, Cosmic Baby etc,. were linear with developing melodies, arpeggios and sounds.
As i said before "trance" (like any other genre of music) is just an attempt to describe a certain category, its a label, it is not the essence of the thing. I personally never felt "blue" by listening to blues (or modern...r n b...), "metal" does not involve some kind of "metallic instrument", "black metal" is not "black" and "power metal" doesn't have "power", house is not just the music played in the warehouse, or any house, techno is not technological music-no more technological than house, drum n bass, trance or even some forms of modern rock music, IDM is not the most "intelligent" music ever, (music doesn't have intelligence in the first place) and there are no IQ tests to measure the I in IDM.
Genre-names are not ontologically identical with the categories of sounds they try to describe. They are just helfull labels that try to organize the vast chaotic world of music. Epic or uplifting trance happened to derive from that early trance genre, which yes shared some of the same elements (arpeggios and pianos anyone? Dance 2 Trance? Cosmic Baby? Jam & Spoon?). Thats all there is to it.
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