JOOF is a hypocrite - what happened to bringing back Trance to its roots?
What happened to bringing "Trance" back to its roots. All he plays is boring progressive house which don't go anywhere which aren't up to the quality they used to be and boring techno which sound boring nothing like the tracks from Ness or Deepbass, Luigi Tozzi, OTHK, which are really hypnotic.
He got rid of the word trance from his radioshow and then turn his back on the genre completely talk about hypocrisy. All talk no show with those interviews he gave just like all of those other djs just another bandwagon jumper. The only thing I've liked from him has been the digital blonde album and the Ovnimoon production here and there. He also closed down his forum too which I found to be disappointing.
EDIT
Back when he played Mistique music stuff it used to be pretty decent progressive stuff now it's just background music which go nowhere.
Last edited by Titanium on Oct-22-2021 at 00:53
Oct-21-2021 10:45
SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
I find it mildly amusing that he gave up on trying to bring back real trance just as real trance has actually started to come back. But other than that... who cares? Lots of places you can go to hear genuine trance right now.
I think it's been a couple of years now since that thread (which I can't find) in which I exaggerated somewhat my response to someone who slagged off J00F, which---naturally---led to SYSTEM-J disagreeing and ended with John coming on here to argue against J. I'd be interested in hearing John's position now, some years later, and in the light of developments in this realm of music since. I haven't found the time to keep up with his radio show at all, so I remain a bit clueless myself.
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Oct-21-2021 15:44
SPANIARD
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Toronto,Ontario
I know exactly what you're referring to and there's a part of me that feels similar. A lot of the stuff he plays on his radio show is bland ( I think that's the appropriate word for it) for the most part and I dont say that referring to tempo or genre. They just dont stick out in anyway.
About him being a hypocrite... it's harsh. He's always claimed to be a Trance DJ and I think his interpretation of what Trance is differs quite a bit from most (which can be problematic if misunderstood). I would give him the benefit of the doubt that he believes what hes playing is true to his criteria and even though he probably spends more time in the Progressive House and Techno sections of online stores, it doesn't change the criteria.
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Oct-21-2021 15:45
Midlothian
Reaping the percussions
Registered: Jan 2018
Location: Edinburgh
quote:
Originally posted by SPANIARD
I think his interpretation of what Trance is differs quite a bit from most (which can be problematic if misunderstood).
I think that's usually the gist of discussions about "trance" on here.
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Oct-21-2021 15:51
SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
quote:
Originally posted by Midlothian
I think it's been a couple of years now since that thread (which I can't find) in which I exaggerated somewhat my response to someone who slagged off J00F, which---naturally---led to SYSTEM-J disagreeing and ended with John coming on here to argue against J. I'd be interested in hearing John's position now, some years later, and in the light of developments in this realm of music since. I haven't found the time to keep up with his radio show at all, so I remain a bit clueless myself.
I believe it was our esteemed fallen comrade DJ RANN who actually triggered J00F's ire. Reading back through the thread though, I was telling him to move towards the prog scene and drop the "trance" branding, so perhaps I'm completely responsible for his treachery.
I believe it was our esteemed fallen comrade DJ RANN who actually triggered J00F's ire. Reading back through the thread though, I was telling him to move towards the prog scene and drop the "trance" branding, so perhaps I'm completely responsible for his treachery.
Ha indeed, and cheers - I forgot most of all that. I just assumed you were to blame .
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Oct-21-2021 18:02
MR STROKE
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Oct 2004
Location: sacramento, USA
His current sound is the best in years. Still one of the few playing what IMO really is just darker drum laden progressive house.
quote:
He's always claimed to be a Trance DJ and I think his interpretation of what Trance is differs quite a bit from most (which can be problematic if misunderstood).
exactly
Oct-21-2021 18:10
djthunderbird
welcometoESTonia
Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Estonia, Tallinn
People are allowed to change their sound / mind / opinion without being hypocrites ffs.
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Oct-21-2021 19:11
junglist
tranceaddict
Registered: Sep 2019
Location: riyadh
quote:
Originally posted by djthunderbird
People are allowed to change their sound / mind / opinion without being hypocrites ffs.
oh jaaa! please try.
Oct-21-2021 20:11
Titanium
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: May 2009
Location: Your Mom
quote:
Originally posted by djthunderbird
People are allowed to change their sound / mind / opinion without being hypocrites ffs.
People are allowed to change their views but those changes should improve your sound not make it worse or bland.
I don't mean to get personal here but I think his divorce might have had a personal hit his sound changed after he became divorced but I could be wrong and something like that would affect me greatly too if I was in his position.