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SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
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quote: | Originally posted by Lira
Most Russians live West of the Urals, not in Siberia. So, just as we should take Finnish worries seriously, if NATO doesn't have a good track record when it comes to protecting states during negotiations, we cannot be so dismissive about Russian sensibilities here either.
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Seriously Lira, what do you think will happen? Russia does not have the military capability to go after Finland right now, so I don't know why you bring up this argument that NATO hasn't defended countries that... aren't part of NATO. What the hell kind of argument is that for Finland not joining NATO? Especially when your argument contains a massive "???" in the part where you're supposed to explain how Russia can credibly threaten Finland while it's still wrapped up in Ukraine.
I note you've jacked that graphic from the Guardian but left out the quotes from the article it comes from:
quote: | But while locals expressed some concern about possible Russian reactions to the country’s plans to join Nato, Finnish experts and officials have urged calm, saying their country is prepared for any aggression.
“The nuclear threat is nothing new,” said Stubb, pointing to reports that Russia is already keeping nuclear weapons in Kaliningrad.
“We expect more Russian cyber-attacks and airspace violations. But we have been preparing for this for a long time,” he said.
Stubb and other analysts dismissed the possibility that Russia would be able to threaten Finland militarily in the near future.
“Russia can’t fight on two fronts, and they would be facing one of the most sophisticated militaries in the world. As always, we remain calm, cool and collected. We know what we are doing,” the former prime minister said.
Finland has maintained strong defence spending over the last 30 years while the rest of Europe has largely made cuts. The Nordic state is also one of the few European countries to have retained military conscription, and almost a third of its adult population are reservists.
Lappeenranta’s mayor, Jarva, similarly said he did not expect any military threats coming out of Moscow, adding the border has “never been quieter”. |
And honestly, if your answer is going to be another variation of "I don't know, but it's best to be cautious", just save your keyboard the wear and tear.
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Apr-22-2022 09:28
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planetaryplayer
Surpeme traineanddict
Registered: Dec 2011
Location: Pine Tree Valley
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Prussia must be liberated.
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Apr-22-2022 13:35
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JEO
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jan 2010
Location: ATH
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Is Putin close to making another mistake with Moldova and/or "Transnistria"? That's what the rumour now seems to be. They're fairly close to the Moldovan border in southern Ukraine, but I think the distance will still provide many opportunities for Ukraine to motti the west-moving Russian forces and drive them out to the sea. Provided there are enough Ukrainian forces in the south to accomplish anything of course. To me pushing west along a narrow strip on the southern coast would just seem exactly like something Putin would do now, willingly pushing a few more thousand Russians into the meat grinder.
In the big picture Transnistria would actually make sense to me, making it possible for him to then push on Kyiv from the north and the south at the same time if he wishes, while keeping Ukraine's eastern forces occupied with an attack pushing west from Donbas, and another attack pushing north from Russian-occupied areas on the southern coast to flank the forces defending the west-moving forces moving from Donbas. Not trying to stroke Putin's ding-dong here or anything, but this possible strategy might make more sense than the previous one, with the assumption that the slightly risky move to Transnistria will work on some level and they manage to get their logistics working between Donbas and Transnistria, being able to move considerable amounts of forces there.
And what comes to whether Transnistria or even parts of Moldova will fall.. There are like 10 000 soldiers and 70 000 reservists in all of Moldova, with Transnistria just basically waiting for Russia to occupy the whole area with a handful of tanks or something similar. Not much resistance to be expected there, I think.
What do you all think of Putin's health? Doesn't he seem a bit withered? So far I've tried to brush off all the speculation about his failing health, but during his recent talk with Shoygu he really seemed like he was holding in a hangover puke at a family dinner or something.
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Apr-23-2022 00:28
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Lews
Platipus And Prog Addict
Registered: Feb 2007
Location: Hugging Whales And Saving Trees
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May-06-2022 18:38
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planetaryplayer
Surpeme traineanddict
Registered: Dec 2011
Location: Pine Tree Valley
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quote: | Originally posted by Lews
As someone of Prussian ancestry, I would seriously love to see Königsberg German again. Make Prussia great again!
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my girlfriend is as well.. a few years ago she got to visit (after filing a 50 page application) her grandfathers old hotel and shop. she's not impressed at how the russians allowed such a great place wither away. i can see no better way to win the honour of her house than reclaiming former land
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May-07-2022 12:23
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