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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby pestering army recruiter

Hahah, I really want to know how this went.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby wander around for 30 minutes pestering army recruiter

They aren't willing to just recruit you immediately based on your immense amount of knowledge and experience?

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Hahah, I really want to know how this went.

Eh, mostly just shot the shit with him. He was trying to recruit reserves lol. Told him I'd catch shit if I joined the reserves from active duty friends lol. Asked him if reserves did anything cool like FSO, FDC, etc. No, just a bunch of rear-echelon supply/support staff. Told him my friend was a major in airborne (saw he had an airborne insignia) and that he was getting a friend into IBCT/Airborne.

I am not a jerk to them as much anymore as I was out of HS. This one Army recruiter that called me up all the time right after HS was funny. I'd keep him on the line for like 40 minutes stringing him along. At the end of one of his calls (he used up all his allowed calls, apparently they are only allowed to cold-call you like 5 times) he tried to get me into some pyramid scheme too lmao. I figured the longer I spent on the phone with him the less time he'd have to recruit some poor kid who didn't know what the fuck they were doing to go off to that shithole Iraq.

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Originally posted by enydo They aren't willing to just recruit you immediately based on your immense amount of knowledge and experience?

If I finished college with a competitive degree and knowing the people I know and what I know I could probably go anywhere I want in the Army and come in as a 1Lt. Not that I plan to haha.

Aren't you too fat for PT?

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Originally posted by OrangestO This isn't about physics, this is about waves.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 Aren't you too fat for PT?

No? I've actually lost 40lbs in the last 6 months (well more like 25ish since I was going from my high weight with the 40lbs number). I have an extremely strong lower body and I gain upper body strength incredibly fast. My core sucks, but that'd be easy to work on too.

I mainly don't want to do it because the fields I'd want to go into have no real world counter-part besides coming out and being a civilian trainer. Since I am already in the training field it seems rather pointless to throw away that work, go do the army thing for 20-30 years as an officer and then come out with a shitty retirement package and probably having made less money than I would have sticking in the civilian world in the first place.

It sounds fun to go out and do what Zewad does (my field artillery TA!), but I don't know... More fun to get into the civilian side of it. More money, more fun (working on training simulation, and hopefully someday working on actual weapon design).

How can you make less money than no money? Do you have to pay to be in the Army now?

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Originally posted by OrangestO This isn't about physics, this is about waves.

How are you paying for school?

How are you paying for housing?

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Originally posted by enydo How are you paying for school?

School is through my father, but pretty much all the grandchildren of my paternal grandfather have funds set up by him to pay for undergrad and grad school, so I am actually taking advantage of that now (all my cousins and my brother took advantage of the undergrad/grad stuff right out of HS, except me). Instead of going to college after HS I worked on my portfolio for two years, got a job doing backend development, did that for three years, fucked around for a year, then started up working on this stupid radio thing. Sadly my business partner turned into a an alcoholic after his mom passed away 6 months into the project and the last 18 months have been a slow process of just me working on it. So I blew through my savings in that time period funding my own business and now I am doing school again.

So tl;dr, family money.

army shit is mandatory here, was 8 months and it is a waste of your god-damn time. The 1st 4 months you get muscular, the other 4 you put on weight. Was somewhat fun though, I was in an espionage division.

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Originally posted by enydo How are you paying for housing?

My dad is footing my living expenses at the moment. I am looking for work though. I might apply to some menial jobs because I don't want to end up like him having had no menial work experience. He looks at everything from an intellectualism point of view and having always worked white collar jobs I don't think he fully understands the working class, as much as he'd like to pretend he does.

If you are trying to make me feel bad about having money in my family, then sorry, it won't work. I am not happy that I have to ask for support right now, I'd rather do it on my own entirely as I did for most of my 20s, but I ventured and lost (but things are looking up there too, almost fully unencumbered in terms of my intellectual property rights and then I am looking to sell my IP on this radio project) but thats how the chips fall sometimes. I am lucky to be in a position where I do not have to worry about ending up on the street anytime soon, and I thank my father and my grandfather every day for that. I wish everyone was as lucky as me.