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Izzy
Virtue & Vice



Registered: Apr 2001
Location: TX TA #5
Absinthe

Has anybody tried absinthe?

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No, Congress didn’t get off its collective ass and repeal any outmoded laws; amazingly enough, the Europeans did. With the formation of the European Union and lobbying by European distillers, absinthe has reachieved legal status across the pond. And, like you, Europe is connected to the Internet. Order a bottle online at sites like absinth.com, laboheme.uk.com, and eabsinthe.com, and most dealers will ship their products right to your front door, no questions asked.


before i order online, has had anyone any brand they recommend, is the effect worth it to dish out the cash and buy it?


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drgoodvibe
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Re: Absinthe

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Originally posted by Izzy
Has anybody tried absinthe?

http://www.maximonline.com/grit/art...ticle_5372.html



before i order online, has had anyone any brand they recommend, is the effect worth it to dish out the cash and buy it?


I've tried absinthe when I was in Barcelona.. That shit is FANTASTIC! I honestly can't remember the brand (lol no wonder) but Definatly don't forget the melted sugar and wooden spoon

Mind you the effect that my buddies and I got was prety much muted. DIdnt do anything to me other then get me really drunk! =]


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DaveSZ
When The Levee Breaks



Registered: Jan 2003
Location: ATX

The liquor lobby in the states has no balls I'm telling you...

They let the neo-prohibitionist conservative pricks run them over.

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dj_pulse
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Sydney, Oz

Tis legal here ...

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Excite
TA4Life



Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Texas

izzy make sure you buy the absinthe with the highest THUJONE content. thujone is the active hallucnogenic ingredient that gives the real absinthe feel. some of that stuff is pretty much just pure alcohol with a little bit of thujone so you better watch out. all absinthe is 50+% alcohol so don't drink too much!!

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montie
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm absinthe

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from http://www.sciencenews.org/20000401/fob4.asp

Toxin in absinthe makes neurons run wild
Corinna Wu

In the late 20th century, espressos and caffe lattes became available on every urban street corner. In late 19th-century Paris, absinthe was the favored drink of artists and writers. Some say addiction to the emerald-green liqueur drove Vincent Van Gogh to take his own life. Edgar Degas, Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec, and Pablo Picasso all painted absinthe drinkers, capturing both the drink's popularity and its dark side.

Doctors at the time recognized that absinthe can cause convulsions, hallucinations, and psychotic behavior. Now, researchers at the University of California, Berkeley and Northwestern University Medical School in Chicago have learned how the drink's toxic component wreaks its neurological effects.

They found that the toxin, alpha-thujone, blocks brain receptors for gamma-aminobutyric acid, or GABA. Without access to GABA, a natural inhibitor of nerve impulses, neurons fire too easily and their signaling goes out of control.

"This paper is very important because it gives the biochemical mechanism for toxicity," says biochemist Wilfred Niels Arnold of the University of Kansas Medical Center in Kansas City.

Berkeley researchers Karin M. Höld, Nilantha S. Sirisoma, and John E. Casida collaborated on the study with Tomoko Ikeda and Toshio Narahashi of Northwestern. The group's results, reported this week at the American Chemical Society meeting in San Francisco, will appear in the April 11 Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Scientists had documented thujone's effects by 1916, but "nobody had ever figured out exactly where the toxin was working," says Höld. She and her colleagues conducted tests on fruit flies, mice, and rat neurons to connect alpha-thujone to GABA receptors. They also examined how animals' liver enzymes break down the compound.

Despite doctors' warnings about the dangers of absinthe, the beverage became very popular, especially in France. Between 1905 and 1913, Belgium, Switzerland, the United States, and Italy cracked down, banning the liqueur. France followed in 1915.

In some countries, notably the Czech Republic, absinthe is still available, albeit in a less potent form. Old absinthe contained about 260 parts per million of alpha-thujone, says Arnold. "Present-day absinthe generally has less than 10 parts per million," he says, which is below the maximum concentration permitted by European beverage guidelines. In today's absinthe, "the most toxic compound is the alcohol," quips Arnold.

Alpha-thujone comes from the herb wormwood, which flavors absinthe. Although few people now drink the liqueur, "a lot of herbal preparations are available on-line, and one is wormwood oil," says Höld. People have used this oil since antiquity to treat digestive disorders. The alpha-thujone concentration in the oil is much higher than in absinthe and is a greater potential health concern, says Höld.

Research into absinthe waned after its prohibition, Arnold notes. However, these new results reveal potential uses for alpha-thujone. "A lot of insecticides work on GABA receptors," notes Höld.

Another group at Berkeley is planning to study long-term effects of the compound in rodents, she adds. That work may provide important information for modern-day absinthe drinkers who ingest low toxin doses over a lifetime.

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Fundamental
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Scotland
Re: Absinthe

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Originally posted by Izzy
Has anybody tried absinthe?


Yes. It's yum.


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sash
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Sydney, Australia

http://www.sepulchritude.com/chapel.../forum_faq.html

really good info site..

i tried it, didnt like it.

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Sir. Lunchalot
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: GTA #2
Re: Re: Absinthe

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Originally posted by drgoodvibe
Mind you the effect that my buddies and I got was prety much muted. DIdnt do anything to me other then get me really drunk! =]


None of the absinth you can get in europe will do more than make you really really drunk. They had to lower the concentration of the stuff that is classified as a drug. Now it`s nothing more than really hard liqueour.


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trancegirl79
Trance and Finland addict



Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Luxembourg, Luxembourg

It's illegal in France, but I tried it when I was in Praha! Holly smoke! It's strong!

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LiveTheDream
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Give me give me give me, i need some of that stuff you call absinth

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