What is this garbage? Another reason why I despise orthodox Judaism and religion in general. Of course Zionism is a secular movement, but speeches like this are just pure pandering (I won't say to who - I think we all know).

Grow some balls, Rabbi Weiss.

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Originally posted by DigiNut What is this garbage?

That's all that needed to be said.

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I think its just the 'spirtual leaders' looking out for one another

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What's with the "G-D" crap?

These are the silenced voices of the true Jews. You won't hear about them in the media. They don't want you to know.

These Jews are brave and may God bless them.

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Originally posted by Palestinian These Jews are brave and may God bless them.

Ah, but which god (or G-D, if you will)?

why dont one side obliterate the other, or stop fucking up world peace. come on, end it now, or shut up...

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Originally posted by Heinz why dont one side obliterate the other, or stop fucking up world peace. come on, end it now, or shut up...

Is this Mr. ChristianIsMyLife over here saying that one side should murder thousands of others in support of their beliefs? Mr. Jesus is my savior is condoning mass murder?


Along with the others, I think this email you recieved is utter trash.

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To clear it up. Those "orthodox Jews" do not feel any special sympathies for the poor Palestinians, they just have their own personal hatred towards the state of Israel and its founders due to the simple fact that they believe "Israel" should have only be founded by the returning (whenever he might come back... ) Messiah and nobody else. Well, good for them.

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Originally posted by Palestinian These are the silenced voices of the true Jews. You won't hear about them in the media. They don't want you to know. These Jews are brave and may God bless them.

Well I was just rifeling this forum and found this disturbning thread...

These are the voices of the smallest of the smallest of minorities in the Jewish people.

These voices have no influence what so ever in Israel beaucse they dont reckon it, yet they enjoy to leach off the benefits which Israel gives them.

Orthodox Jews do not reckon Israel as the chosen home land becuase according to the bible the true land of Israel will only exist when the Messiah comes.

And therefore they boycott Zionism, these are not the real jews, these are the fake jews and their numbers are very small, perhaps 100,000 worldwide, so you can shatter your image of these "true jews" to small pieces because no one likes them in Israel and they do not contribute to Israel, and I know what youre gonna say, no one likes them because they tell the truth and we are afraid to see Palestinians free.

No, no one likes them beacuase they leach off Israel in every chance they get - money and health services, yet they dont know it as a country, the real jews are the zionists, those that have came here in order to live peacefully and to settle in Israel's land, from there started the Israeli - Palestinian conflict...

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Originally posted by Scorchio Well I was just rifeling this forum and found this disturbning thread... These are the voices of the smallest of the smallest of minorities in the Jewish people. These voices have no influence what so ever in Israel beaucse they dont reckon it, yet they enjoy to leach off the benefits which Israel gives them. Orthodox Jews do not reckon Israel as the chosen home land becuase according to the bible the true land of Israel will only exist when the Messiah comes. And therefore they boycott Zionism, these are not the real jews, these are the fake jews and their numbers are very small, perhaps 100,000 worldwide, so you can shatter your image of these "true jews" to small pieces because no one likes them in Israel and they do not contribute to Israel, and I know what youre gonna say, no one likes them because they tell the truth and we are afraid to see Palestinians free. No, no one likes them beacuase they leach off Israel in every chance they get - money and health services, yet they dont know it as a country, the real jews are the zionists, those that have came here in order to live peacefully and to settle in Israel's land, from there started the Israeli - Palestinian conflict...

Obviously they're not liked in Israel. You stated yourself that according to the bible the true land of Israel will only exist when the Messiah comes. If that's true, then they are true Jews (i'm referring to Jew as a faith). These Jews don't want to be represented by a colonial state that was founded on terror and displacement. They feel such a state doesn't deserve to be called Jewish. Unfortunately, racist Zionism has been adopted by the majority of Jews around the world.

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