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AirPole
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Registered: Jan 2002
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Question How to create that 'distortion' synth?

Hey people,


I'd like to know how to create that kind of distorted synth as used in AvB - Burned with Desire (in the intro), and also in tracks like Robert Nickson - Spiral and Ocean Lab - Satellite...

Can it be done in Reason?? Because those sounds are so fat!


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Mr.Mystery
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I have no idea what you mean by "distorted synth" but Nickson uses Reason, so...

You did know Reason has distortion units, right?


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AirPole
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Hey m8,

Yeah i knew that reason has distortion units, but i mean for example the sound in the beginning of AvB - Burned with Desire, lets say the version on the CD 'A state of trance 2004'.

I posted a sample here...
Distortion Instrument Sound

Now i'd like to know how to create that sound in the background (3 or 4 notes everytime)... How can i do this in Reason????


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Massive84
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thats an acid sound with a bandpass filter i think and some resoance(however you spell it ) i think

also there is mode on the scream4 to make it sound like that the sound not the synth i mean. coz it doesn't really sound sharp like most acids do.


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And how do i get this Acid sound in reason?


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DeZmA
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sounds like
saw going tru lfo-d hi pass or bandpas with medium resonance and some distortion/overdrive
with some reverb and/or delay


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quote:
Originally posted by DeZmA
sounds like
saw going tru lfo-d hi pass or bandpas with medium resonance and some distortion/overdrive
with some reverb and/or delay


ya that kinda distortion i think you can get with the scream4, there is a mode for it..

as for the filter i say bandpass, and the resonance is a bit higher than usuall for bandpass as far as i can hear.

but also very important is the notes that this synth go through, acid gets shaped not only by the synth but by notes and filter automation.


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DeZmA
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you can get that distortion with about every distortion effect, hw or sw. Most hw synths have distortion efx built-in. And the sounds don't get shaped by the filter as it's not on high resonance, it's only when self-oscillating that it gets shaped by filter.


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I think it's a vocoder. Hi-pitch modulator with a lo-pitch carrier
(or the other way around). Somehow I got the similar sound (dont
exactly remember) with Reason.

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quote:
Originally posted by kooma
I think it's a vocoder. Hi-pitch modulator with a lo-pitch carrier
(or the other way around). Somehow I got the similar sound (dont
exactly remember) with Reason.

did you ever realise a vocoder cannot make sounds on its own
I think you're thinking wrong


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quote:
Originally posted by DeZmA
did you ever realise a vocoder cannot make sounds on its own
I think you're thinking wrong


If I wouldnt know what vocoder is I wouldnt be talking bout
carriers and modulators . If U didnt
understand I ment carrier synth playing lower note than the
modulator synth (or voice)

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quote:
Originally posted by kooma
If I wouldnt know what vocoder is I wouldnt be talking bout
carriers and modulators . If U didnt
understand I ment carrier synth playing lower note than the
modulator synth (or voice)

so what would you take as input then??
I won't deny it might be possible, you can do some crazy stuff with vocoders but it'll be a proces of trial and error, analog synthesis will be way easier imo.


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