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starsearcher
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Registered: Jan 2003
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Man sets himself on fire outside the White House

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Man Sets Himself on Fire Near White House

1 hour, 13 minutes ago

U.S. Government - AP

WASHINGTON - A man set himself afire Monday just outside a White House gate and repeatedly yelled "Allah Allah" as a Secret Service officer held him facedown on the sidewalk.


Alan Etter, spokesman for the District of Columbia Fire and Emergency Medical Services, said the man suffered burns to about 30 percent of his body.

The man had burns to his head, back, arms and face but was conscious when medics took him to Washington Hospital Center, Etter said.

White House doctors joined uniformed Secret Service personnel in administering first aid until the emergency service technicians arrived. They transported the 52-year-old man, who was not identified, to the burn unit of Washington Hospital Center.

Lorie Lewis, a Secret Service spokeswoman, said the man "set himself on fire on Pennsylvania Avenue on the north side of the White House complex."

Etter said the incident occurred about 2 p.m. next to the guard post on the north side of the White House beside a section of Pennsylvania Avenue recently reopened to pedestrians.

Witnesses reported hearing screams and seeing a man in flames. The man's right trouser leg was burned.

Afterward, he lay on the sidewalk about 10-15 feet from his partially burned raincoat, attache case and various papers. A fire extinguisher was there as well. Secret Service personnel confiscated the man's items.

A Florida couple with a video camera taped the incident. John and Beverly Beers, tourists from Palm Beach, Fla., say they turned the tape over to the Secret Service. Authorities also interviewed the couple in Lafayette Park.

Jim Clarke of Burke, Va., was walking his dog when the incident occurred. He said Secret Service agents acted quickly and used an extinguisher to put out the flames.

There was no immediate word on the man's condition or what led to the fire. There was evidence of an ignitable liquid at the scene, Etter said.

The Secret Service (news - web sites), which disclosed no additional details, is investigating the incident.


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Philly
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wow another dumbass Arab!

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St_Andrew
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wow another dumbass Arab!


another dumbass westerner generalization...

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JM
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quote:
Originally posted by Philly
wow another dumbass Arab!


Arab or not, the guy obviously had some intense problems...

This guy should've died, and too bad he didn't - yet. Anybody stupid enough to set themselves on fire doesn't deserve tax dollars to pay for his hospital bills.

>JM<

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Arab or not, the guy obviously had some intense problems...

This guy should've died, and too bad he didn't - yet. Anybody stupid enough to set themselves on fire doesn't deserve tax dollars to pay for his hospital bills.

>JM<


I still don't understand what he was trying to prove


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Michael19
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quote:
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Arab or not, the guy obviously had some intense problems...

This guy should've died, and too bad he didn't - yet. Anybody stupid enough to set themselves on fire doesn't deserve tax dollars to pay for his hospital bills.

>JM<


so i take it you also think that people who smoke and get lung cnacer shouldnt be treated either. What about someone who speeds and crashes there car, should they just be left to die on the side of the road?


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so i take it you also think that people who smoke and get lung cnacer shouldnt be treated either. What about someone who speeds and crashes there car, should they just be left to die on the side of the road?


Actually I kinda like that idea...not to the extreme that you've highlighted it though...

I think there's a certain order in Canada who's treated first...i'm not sure if it's proposed or already in place that if you're a smoker and have lung cancer you'll be last to be treated or something...


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Actually I kinda like that idea...not to the extreme that you've highlighted it though...

I think there's a certain order in Canada who's treated first...i'm not sure if it's proposed or already in place that if you're a smoker and have lung cancer you'll be last to be treated or something...


I'd agree with that...

Not saying one life is worth more than the other but if that person in the hosptial PUT themselves there through years of self-abuse, why should I have to pay for their dumb ass when they never full well what they were doing...


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I'd agree with that...

Not saying one life is worth more than the other but if that person in the hosptial PUT themselves there through years of self-abuse, why should I have to pay for their dumb ass when they never full well what they were doing...


They should just raise taxes on cigarettes and put the money into Health Care.

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Michael19
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Originally posted by Fir3start3r
I'd agree with that...

Not saying one life is worth more than the other but if that person in the hosptial PUT themselves there through years of self-abuse, why should I have to pay for their dumb ass when they never full well what they were doing...



probaly because we all harm each other in a different way or another,drink,drugs,food etc etc.


if your to say "smokers should be treated last because they borught it on themselves", you are going down a very dodgey road, you could nearly nit pick every sickness as being caused by the person.

i.e heart problems=bad eating. It would be a vicous circle.


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this is America, we should have let him have his freedom of expression and let himself burn!


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this is America, we should have let him have his freedom of expression and let himself burn!


Which is why they let him burn... "we don't need no water let the mother f****r burn..." till they finally extinguished them


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