Ok, I've only been DJing for less than a year now. So this may be a stupid question.

What's the policy on Changing BPM during the set?
Is this considered tacky, do-able, or just plain retarded?

The reason I ask is that I have some records that are just too fast for my regular set, and would like to get people movin a little more after the first part.

How would I go about doin this if its not too tacky?
Slowly increase the pitch while the record is goin?, Match off beats while others are faster(Ie, if the bass kicks are 2 diff speeds but the hi-hats/cymbals/something else are matchable) then fade accordingly?

If this makes sense to anyone let me know.

There's a bunch of threads on this already. But, to answer your question, yes, if that's the direction you want your set to go in. If people want to dance faster and/or you want to play faster tunes, its perfectly fine to speed up your tempo throughout the set. What you can do is gradually speed up the playing record(before it's beatmatched of course), and if you do it gradually enough, no one will notice. Do this as much or as many times as you need throughout the set. You can also increase the speed of the playing record to match that of the incoming record, as you said, although since it has to be gradual, it could make beatmatching take longer than you'd like, so make sure you have plenty of time to do it if you want to do it this way.

beatless breakdowns are good points for this as well.

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Originally posted by onceler beatless breakdowns are good points for this as well.

yeah if i feel my set is a little slow i will usually wait for a breakdown and speed it up there. if there isnt a beat its very hard to notice a pitch change. if you are gonna do a dramatic increase +/- 3.3 or more this is gonna change the octive of the track so be careful there. try to plan the octave change around a 16 or 32 count if you can so that it will flow better if that makes any sense.

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Originally posted by Vero if you are gonna do a dramatic increase +/- 3.3 or more this is gonna change the octive of the track so be careful there. try to plan the octave change around a 16 or 32 count if you can so that it will flow better if that makes any sense.

interesting.. i didn't know that.. thanks for that input...

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Originally posted by Vero if you are gonna do a dramatic increase +/- 3.3 or more this is gonna change the octive of the track so be careful there. try to plan the octave change around a 16 or 32 count if you can so that it will flow better if that makes any sense.

Thats a good way of doing it, you just gotta be gradual, if you change it to much even in a breakdown, when the beat comes back in, it can be very noticable that its been increased, sometimes this sounds ok, and adds to the set, other times it can sound like crap and ruin the atmosphere, just make sure your timing, track selection, % increase and method all work together.

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Originally posted by Vero yeah if i feel my set is a little slow i will usually wait for a breakdown and speed it up there. if there isnt a beat its very hard to notice a pitch change. if you are gonna do a dramatic increase +/- 3.3 or more this is gonna change the octive of the track so be careful there. try to plan the octave change around a 16 or 32 count if you can so that it will flow better if that makes any sense.

I can change the tempo without changing the pitch... can you not do that on TTs?

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Originally posted by Trunker I can change the tempo without changing the pitch... can you not do that on TTs?

Some tt's, like the Numark TTX-1 (i think...) can do that.

But generally speaking: NO.

You can move the pitch for about 0.4 at once before it gets noticeable.

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I've also found that changing the pitch will make a noticable key change in the vocals. People will just notice vocal changes more than anything else.

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like some1 else said, its perfectly fine to change speed up or down in a set, try not to keep thinking there's these "rules" to DJin! (aside from obvious things like.. play gr8 music and mix well lol)..

as long as it doesnt sound shite, then change the speed, either gradually, or wait for a beatless breakdown, or even a breakbeat one can sound good. vocals tend to NEVER sound good if u change pitch as theyr playin tho so avoid that..

other than that.. do wotever u want

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Originally posted by Trunker I can change the tempo without changing the pitch... can you not do that on TTs?

yeah pitch lock is a feature found mostly on CDJs, it allows for a digital "stretch" of the song to slow it down for speed it up without changing the pitch. only that one numark TT named above can do that with vinyl, because it has a digital audio processor in it.

but for all of us with true analog TTs we must give mind to the pitch.