im changing courses this coming year hopefully

from comp science to music tech, shouldnt be too much of a ball ache i guess

but jus the loan people you need to watch! lol

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I just finnished an EE degree. I know what you mean about the geeks and lack of birdies.

I had the same problem with my mates all dropping out and stuff. But I just stuck to it.

I don't know if just changing course is the best idea. Because if what your doing is worth anything it'll be hard. Otherwise when you leave you'll end up working in some frigging call center or some shit.

PS: What uni you at? Is it an MEng/BEng/BSc? Remember if you do one more year you get a non-honours degree (better than fuck all, probebly as good as a third class hons, esp if your marks are shit).

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Last edited by Dervish on Feb-03-2005 at 21:31

Frase, you're in coventry eh? what uni u at?

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Originally posted by Dervish I had the same problem with my mates all dropping out and stuff. But I just stuck to it.

yeh thats the thing...im having trouble sticking with it. its getting to the point where i just dont bother getting out my bed cos the thought of goin into uni is depressing. i think im enjoying my part-time job at safeways more than uni

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PS: What uni you at? Is it an MEng/BEng/BSc? Remember if you do one more year you get a non-honours degree (better than fuck all, probebly as good as a third class hons, esp if your marks are shit).

Im at Strathclyde Uni in glasgow and im doing a BEng (too stupid for MEng lol) Do u think finishing after 3rd year would get me a decent job? Did you manage to get a good job straight after finishing your degree? (seeing as thats what uni's alsways promise )

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Originally posted by Trancedewd yeh thats the thing...im having trouble sticking with it. its getting to the point where i just dont bother getting out my bed cos the thought of goin into uni is depressing. i think im enjoying my part-time job at safeways more than uni

I know exacly what you mean. I had that too but the thought of my dad kicking my ass manage to motivate me.

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Im at Strathclyde Uni in glasgow and im doing a BEng (too stupid for MEng lol) Do u think finishing after 3rd year would get me a decent job? Did you manage to get a good job straight after finishing your degree? (seeing as thats what uni's alsways promise )

Some people will say no, some will say it'll be ok. I'd say I know people who have got decent ones.

Right now I'm doing a masters in livi. I'm getting sponsored by Rolls-Royce so I could of started a job before I went back, but I want to get chartered.

Alot of the guys on my course are there because they had difficulty getting jobs. But out of my old class (BEng Robert Gordons) I think everyone got jobs (including a guy with a 3rd).

Remember no-one likes to employ geeks (no social skills). So you'll likly have an advantage.

EDIT: I don't know if you'd like it but I think when your working offshore it's more your personality, and how switched on you are, than your degree. But it isn't for everyone.

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Last edited by Dervish on Feb-03-2005 at 22:32

hmmm...i guess i could stay on (got resits for exams, etc) and finish with a basic degree but i dunno if i'd enjoy it. i was also thinking of what kind of job i would end up with after my degree. Im sure it would be well paid...but it could be the shittest job ever. What are you/will you be doing for Rolls Royce? Where did other people you know apply for jobs?

Also, how easy do you think it would be to get a job with some company like technics/vestax/pioneer/numark? cos that would be a good job imo. but im guessing they maybe only look for MEng engnieers that have super degrees...

Well like you say it can be well paid but shitty. I'll likely be some form of plant engineer or "design" engineer. (""= not really design) The way I see it is to get experiance then move up the ladder to better jobs (and chartered). The intial job will possibly be quite dull and not use all my skills. But I'll be learning and getting experiance all the time. But even in the summer work I was having meetings with and presenting to people commanding £300+ million a year budgets tho.

Working for vestax and so on would be difficult I'd think as they'd most likely want people with serious experiance for any design work, but having said that a mate of mine got quite far applying for a uber high cost audio gear job.

Most of the guys from my course are working for oil firms. Mostly on shore just now, but they get a bonus for going off shore.

But when you compare 1) the money 2) the promotion prospects to some joke job, which it's highly likly you'll have to take if you do some joke degree.

Remember with decent qualifications you can do anything, I've thought of the forces and maybe moving to Canada.

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thanks for the info man

i think ill stay on till the end of this year and then decide what im gonna do. i can see where your coming from with the 'do a shit degree and get a shit job/future prospects' thing so i think will avoid changing to an easy degree.

Oh, i forgot to mention another thing about this degree which is shit - computer programming - this has to be the lamest, most boring, tedious thing ever and its fuckin compulsary i dunno how people can do this as a lifetime job

I've done my fair share of that....... more than fair...... C, C++, Asssembler, Verilog little bit of VHDL, I'm sure there are some others. But basicly learning them is tough, but it's like riding a bike once you do it it's done and just like writing curning it out.

Thing is I hate maths so I always did the programming modules because I just can't do the maths. And theres no maths in programming.

I'll not be writing one line of code in my future jobs though, just getting my bit of paper that says I'm an engineer.

Also cheating on the courseworks is easy.

EDIT: Also when you actually go into work the people will be ok in the main. No-one likes to employ arseholes or geeks. So you can get a good laugh normally, though most people will be older, some nice looking girls work in real firms too.

I used to love working in safeways though no responcibilty and just basicly liked working for banter.

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Last edited by Dervish on Feb-03-2005 at 23:51

dropping out is fairly standard with engineering courses. my brother dropped out of his engineering course i think, to go into a different one, or he changed the level of his degree, but he told me that oit of a class of about 50 or more theres only about 12 or less left in the final year. my mate was doing a mechanical engineering course, and im pretty sure that a lot of folk have dropped out his course. in fact hes actually taken a year out cos he found it too hard.

as for birds in the course, do a scoial sciences subject. im studying law, and id say the whole law school is at a guess, 80% female, and in my sociology class, id say the figure was about the same.

if i was you id stick with the engineering, as theres plenty of opportunity out there for jobs. especially in places like Dubai, where you can get a really fucking good standard of living.

uni is just a ballache full stop.

no one prepares u wot so ever for the shock u get when u get there. its not just the work, or the living on ur own is just a combination of everything and it can really get on top of you if ur not careful. people who say uni life is just a doss really dont see the bigger picture. yes there are times when u can sit around doing fuck all but the amount of work u have to do to catch up if u do that is ridiculous. i fucked up last year and am now resitting the year as a result. i thought about changing course as like with ur experience more than half the people who started our course dropped out. but in the end i decided that working hard at wot i was doing and gettin something that i can make a career out of was a whole lot more important to me than changing to something that was easy but with no prospects. once i got that into my head i've been much happier to do wot i am doing and this year has gone pretty well so far.

i dunno really if any of that helps u at all but ive had a tough time all in all at uni but ive come out the other end and its all worked out for the best so far, so i think my advice is to just stick with it mate

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