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mr. sound
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Xone 92 questions...

hey guys just a couple of quick questions in regards to the xone 92.

when used in conjunction with the pioneer efx unit (500 or 1000), does it take up a channel on the mixer?

also, i noticed the volume faders are VCA. the xone 62 xfader (which is VCA) had slight problems where there was a small lag time when trying to cut fast, thereby rendering the mixer useless to scratch on. are there the same problems with the 92 for the volume faders? i want to be able to "tease" tracks in by cutting them in and out fast. i don't want any sort of lag time when doing so a la denon digital mixers.

thanks in advance!


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Zack Roth
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Re: Xone 92 questions...

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Originally posted by mr. sound
hey guys just a couple of quick questions in regards to the xone 92.

when used in conjunction with the pioneer efx unit (500 or 1000), does it take up a channel on the mixer?

also, i noticed the volume faders are VCA. the xone 62 xfader (which is VCA) had slight problems where there was a small lag time when trying to cut fast, thereby rendering the mixer useless to scratch on. are there the same problems with the 92 for the volume faders? i want to be able to "tease" tracks in by cutting them in and out fast. i don't want any sort of lag time when doing so a la denon digital mixers.

thanks in advance!


the Xone 92 doesn't have that line/phono switch that the Denon's have that let you cut in and out real fast.

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Dervish
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Think he's more meaning using the faders though?

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mr. sound
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Think he's more meaning using the faders though?


yes, everything i'm talking about has to do with the volume faders. i don't want to cut in and out with the line / phono switches. the denon has a problem with the volume faders in that there is a slight delay when opening and closing them fast thereby making it impossible to have precision "stabs" of music.


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ohhh, I thought you were talking about those little toggle switches. My bad.

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yes, everything i'm talking about has to do with the volume faders. i don't want to cut in and out with the line / phono switches. the denon has a problem with the volume faders in that there is a slight delay when opening and closing them fast thereby making it impossible to have precision "stabs" of music.


Is it an actual delay (lag) or just the way the fader curve is? Like no change for a significant amount of travel, rather than an actual lag?

EDIT: As in a dead zone at the start/end of the fader curve.

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Didn't the denon software update fix the delay problem...

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Didn't the denon software update fix the delay problem...


yes


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Hmmm, I think the faders on the xone 92 are perfect for fader juggling so I shouldnt be worried about that... I assure you theres no latency, atleast nothing ive noticed. The only thing I'd say is that the fader volume is not proportional like say the pioneer djm 500/600 like 0-10. On the xone the faders increase by alot within the top 1/3. Thats the only wierd thing but it actually turns out to sound better for fader whipping

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The only thing I'd say is that the fader volume is not proportional like say the pioneer djm 500/600 like 0-10. On the xone the faders increase by alot within the top 1/3. Thats the only wierd thing but it actually turns out to sound better for fader whipping

Hope this helps



This annoyed me at first on the xone models, but once you get used to it - you know it makes sense!!

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the Xone 92 doesn't have that line/phono switch that the Denon's have that let you cut in and out real fast.
i have a xone 92, couldnt u just use the phono/line buttons to do the same thing?

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Originally posted by Dervish
Is it an actual delay (lag) or just the way the fader curve is? Like no change for a significant amount of travel, rather than an actual lag?

EDIT: As in a dead zone at the start/end of the fader curve.


I have the denon...what he's talking about is an actual delay. You'd cut over, and it'd take a fraction of a second for the sound to actually change.

But denon came out with a software update for the mixer that completely fixed it.


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