Are they a member of the local chamber of commerce? If so, a chamber will usually have a dispute resolution process. Worth a shot.

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You could bring him to small claims court and probably present your case by yourself sans lawyer. That's also worth a try.

amb_: I emailed them today, we'll see what they say.

Marcus007: I don't know if it's really worth it all. Even without a lawyer, I don't have much evidence since everything we discussed was verbal, the papers I signed were the agreements, not very clear agreements but none-the-less.

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That's the e-mail they advertise for tourists. Perhaps e-mailing your concerns to the administration of Wasaga might gain you some headground. At the very least, your complaint would be on record with them and therefore a strike against the motel.

Hope this helps a little - I know I would be super pissed as well.

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Originally posted by Irishaddict [email protected] That's the e-mail they advertise for tourists. Perhaps e-mailing your concerns to the administration of Wasaga might gain you some headground. At the very least, your complaint would be on record with them and therefore a strike against the motel. Hope this helps a little - I know I would be super pissed as well.

I'll give that a shot after I hear what the Chamber has to say. Thanks!

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Originally posted by amb_ Are they a member of the local chamber of commerce? If so, a chamber will usually have a dispute resolution process. Worth a shot.

http://www.wasagainfo.com/publish/m...ccoms-m-z.shtml

They are a member, according to the CoC's member list.

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Originally posted by Pasta I don't know if it's really worth it all. Even without a lawyer, I don't have much evidence since everything we discussed was verbal, the papers I signed were the agreements, not very clear agreements but none-the-less.

This is the beauty of small claims court. You're not there to 'prove beyond a reasonable doubt' your claim. The judge simply has to believe you more than he believes the owner of the motel (basically - whoever has the more 'plausible' story). And my guess is that if you have 9 other friends to back up your story you look a hell of a lot more plausible. Also, Wasaga is known for its tourism and pretty much anyone owning property out there is out to make a quick buck.

It's only 50 bucks to file in small claims court (provided your claim is under 5k) and you get reimbursed for that if you win (just remember to sue for what you're out PLUS court costs). And - he won't be able to form any kind of counter-argument against you (yeah, there are sneaky bastards like that out there) in a monetary sense because you cannot sue for lost wages in small claims court.

I'd say it's worth a shot.


**EDIT: I sued an ex-landlord for keeping my security deposit AND for a section of the TPA that he was 'disturbing my reasonable enjoyment' by entering the property without 24-hours notice. I didn't have video-recording of him entering or anything, but I saved all the e-mails that said "I'll be there @ 8 am" when they were sent at 11 p.m. the previous night. So, if you e-mail these people save copies and their replies if you decide to sue. I was even surprised at how much they helped me out.

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Thanks guys!

Irishaddict: I would have to go there to do the court stuff right?

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Throw a fuckin' brick through his front window.

Problem solved.

^ ROFL! Go Cale go!

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Originally posted by Pasta Irishaddict: I would have to drive there to do the court stuff right?

Yeah that's the shitty part . You have to file in the jurisdiction of the person being sued. Once you file your claim, you'll get a response from the courts to which you are given a set time to then serve the other party (usually 10 days). Most people do this by registered mail (costs about $2.50 I think) and that just basically means that the other party has to sign for the mail, thereby proving they did receive it. (You CAN drive the papers up there and hand them to yourself if you're really paranoid about him getting them - but registered mail is efficient.) After they are served they have to respond to the court and then a hearing is scheduled and both parties are made aware of it.

My biggest advice for filing a claim in small claims court - DO YOUR HOMEWORK. Read how to fill out the forms correctly and don't think anything is too insignificant to read.

There's no 'FOR SURE' ways to win in small court. Here are some ways that will help though:

- Dress up. Wear conservative, clean clothing in good repair. You do not need to wear expensive clothing, but you are in court. Show the proper respect and you will get respect. Dress your best. Be well groomed. Clean your finger nails. Get rid of the giagantic slutty press on nails. Get rid of the piercings, the purple hair and the leather, biker look or the grubby look. Dress as if you are going to church.

- Prepare in advance. Consider writing down all the points you want to make so they are clear and in a logical order. You will not be permitted to read the list, but you can use it as a guide to ensure you cover everything.

- Bring all your evidence with you. Gather all the documents relevant to your case, including cheques, invoices, receipts, photographs, expert reports, contracts, warranties, broken objects or whatever is needed to show your losses and establish what the loss is worth in dollars as best you can.

- If you wish witnesses to be heard, bring them with you. Do not coach them or give them memorized speeches. Simply ask them to tell what they know in their own words about the matter. The judge can and probably will question them and you.

- Take your time. Speak clearly, slowly and be direct. Tell the court what damages you have suffered and what they have cost you. Be prepared to prove the damages with receipts, estimates, photos or other proof.


Also - STUDY JUDGE JUDY:
As repulsive as she is, Judge Judy provides a good example of what to expect in any Small Claims Court although few judges are as sexist, obnoxious, arrogant or rude as that meglomaniac. Perhaps all that plastic surgery has affected her mind too. Watch several of her shows. Watch how the witnesses present their evidence and what happens to those who are not prepared or talk over the other party.

God I hate Judge Judy.

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