Beyond publically known organizations such as the Skull 'n' Bones society, do you think there are secret societies or groups of people with such vast wealth and power that they can dictate world events behind the scenes?

Are they more powerful than Governments, or tied into Governments?

I really think the average person goes through life not knowing many of his/her perceptions, values, etc., have been somehow altered by people behind the scenes...

Well, it's said that a very small minority controls the Federal Reserve Bank in this country (which basically controls the nations money supply and it's subsequent real buying power/value)...don't know if it's true...but I DO know George Soros tried to influence the last election and he wasted a lot of his money in the process...I was glad to see that.

hmm possibly... i personally have always wondered if there is one group or one man that controls most of the power in the US... this "man" acts behind the scenes and does not have a face recognized by the public, however he uses war generals and the president as puppets. of course this isnt very logical, but in an 'x-files'ish way its fun to think about

^^^He exists....and he's called; Alan Greenspan, lol.

the math is easy..... 99% of the wealth is in the hands of 1% of the population..... wealth = money = power i dont think they need to keep it to secret that they own our asses.

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Originally posted by GRinLoCK the math is easy..... 99% of the wealth is in the hands of 1% of the population..... wealth = money = power i dont think they need to keep it to secret that they own our asses.

I know there are rich people out there like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet... that's not the question.


The question is whether these people secretly collude to manipulate or cause world events.

Also, are there societies out there whose wealth is not publicaly known/accounted for and not compiled on lists like "Fortune's richest people."

I think so.

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Originally posted by rainbow_marble hmm possibly... i personally have always wondered if there is one group or one man that controls most of the power in the US... this "man" acts behind the scenes and does not have a face recognized by the public, however he uses war generals and the president as puppets. of course this isnt very logical, but in an 'x-files'ish way its fun to think about

"Presidents as puppets". It's not as stupid a concept as you might think.
I mean, George Bush is the best example of a world leader that is nothing but a figurehead being manipulated by those around him. I suppose that goes with anyone with an IQ in this single digits

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Originally posted by rainbow_marble hmm possibly... i personally have always wondered if there is one group or one man that controls most of the power in the US... this "man" acts behind the scenes and does not have a face recognized by the public, however he uses war generals and the president as puppets. of course this isnt very logical, but in an 'x-files'ish way its fun to think about

Kind of in a Hitchhiker' Guide To The Galaxy way? Zaophod Beeblebrox is the emperor, but he does not really hold the power in the universe, although only 6 people know who does.

Sounds like another conspiracy theorist thread. Let me sport a few guesses.

The Freemasons
The Bilderbergs
The Illuminati
Skull & Bones
Bohemian Grove

Any others? How bout those damn Scientologists just for kicks!

the back of the american one dollar bill suggests this.

the inscription NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM means, "New Secular Order"

these people yearn for a one world government and world order. all world events are heading that way. the formation of the EU, the World Bank, the UN.

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Globalization
The conspiracy facts are that Elite inner circle members of the Bilderbergs (BB), Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), and Trilateral Commission (TC) are conspiring to politically and economically dominate the entire world under their New World Order, more recently called Globalization, or Global Union, Global Economy, Global Order, Global Environment, and like terms. When President G.H.W. Bush used the term New World Order in several of his speeches, it aroused suspicion and concern among the public. So, the Elite selected a generic term "Globalization" to use, and now Americans are no longer alarmed, because the business world uses this term daily, so it must not be so frightening. But, you cannot change a tiger's stripes. We're still talking about the New World Order.


"Globalization"
and
Secret Societies Exposed by RIE
Plus
The Elite Serial Killers of Lincoln, JFK, RFK & MLK
"So do not be afraid of them.
There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed,
or hidden that will not be made known.

We know who’s really behind the Shadow Government, the New World Order, or the Global Union.
They’re all one and the same.
We not only know which secret organizations are in control, we now know the names of the two men at the very top.

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Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk:: When President G.H.W. Bush used the term New World Order in several of his speeches, it aroused suspicion and concern among the public.

This is an historic moment. We have in this past year made great progress in ending the long era of conflict and cold war. We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves and for future generations a new world order, a world where the rule of law, not the law of the jungle, governs the conduct of nations.
When we are successful, and we will be, we have a real chance at this new world order, an order in which a credible United Nations can use its peace-keeping role to fulfil the promise and vision of the U.N.'s founders.
George H.W. Bush, January 16th 1991, Attack on Iraq

We have confidence because freedom is the permanent hope of mankind, the hunger in dark places, the longing of the soul. When our Founders declared a new order of the ages...
George W. Bush, January 20th 2005, Presidential Inauguration

The U.S. State Department translation of "novus ordo seclorum" is:
"A new order of the ages"
http://www.greatseal.com/mottoes/seclorum.html

If it talks like a duck, and quacks like a duck then it must be a duck.

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